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From: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
To: OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] notify_parent and ptrace cleanup
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 11:08:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200408251808.i7PI8jFF017075@magilla.sf.frob.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: OGAWA Hirofumi's message of  Thursday, 26 August 2004 02:51:26 +0900 <877jrnm7hd.fsf@devron.myhome.or.jp>

> ptrace() is frangible, and racy. And looks like few things can't improve
> without user visible change. So, I'm thinking I would like to rewrite
> it by another interface.

I don't think such vague statements are useful.  Are there other races you
are implicitly referring to here, or only the ones I have just cited?
These issues are with the implementation, not the interface.  Changing the
ptrace interface won't do anything about them, and fixing them need not
change the ptrace interface.

The ptrace interface could use replacing, but that is really a separate
issue.  I will be first in line to replace it with something that has saner
semantics and a more convenient user interface.  But that won't help a whit
with things like these race concerns.  Let's keep the issue of an ugly
interface separate from the issue of potential bugs in the one we have.  If
there are bugs (aside from the inherent limitations of the intended
semantics), they need to be fixed.

> > +	read_lock_irq(&tasklist_lock); /* Protects child->sighand.  */
>                  ^^^^
> _irq is unneeded?

Correct, thanks.


Thanks,
Roland

  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-25 18:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-18  0:40 [PATCH] notify_parent cleanup Roland McGrath
2004-08-18  6:44 ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-21  1:09   ` [PATCH] notify_parent and ptrace cleanup Roland McGrath
2004-08-21 11:47     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2004-08-25  2:43       ` Roland McGrath
2004-08-25 17:51         ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2004-08-25 18:08           ` Roland McGrath [this message]
2004-08-25 19:48             ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2004-08-25 19:54               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-25 20:20                 ` Roland McGrath
2004-08-25 20:53                   ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2004-08-25 21:02                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-25 21:07                       ` Roland McGrath
2004-08-25 21:45                         ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2004-08-19  4:26 ` [PATCH] notify_parent cleanup OGAWA Hirofumi
2004-08-19 20:59   ` Roland McGrath
2004-08-19 22:01     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2004-08-19 22:04       ` Roland McGrath

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