From: Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: apic and 8254 wraparound ...
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 20:42:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041226194215.GA24268@mail.13thfloor.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041226180806.GA1334@elf.ucw.cz>
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 07:08:06PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > > When you read one 8bit value from an 8254 timer the values latch for
> > > read so that when you read the other half of the 16bit value you get the
> > > value from the moment of the first read. On
> > > neptune that didn't work right so you got halves of two differing
> > > samples. That means the error would be worst case a bit under 300 (257
> > > for the wrap + a few for timing)
> >
> > okay, I still wasn't able to find the documentation
> > at the intel site, but I could extrapolate the issue
> > from your explanation (thanks by the way)
> >
> > get_8254_timer_count() reads lo byte first, then the
> > high byte, so assuming that the latch doesn't work
> > as expected on intel 430 NX and LX chipsets, can
> > result in the following type of error:
> >
> > counter >= 2^8 * N, LO is read (for example 0)
> > counter is decremented
> > counter < 2^8 * N HI is read (N - 1)
> >
> > so the read value will be exactly 2^8 lower than
> > expected (assumed that the counter doesn't do more
> > than 256 counts between the two inb_p()s)
> >
> > second the wrap-around will always happen _after_
> > the counter reached zero, so we can further assume
> > that the prev_count, has to be lower than 2^8, when
> > we observe a wraparound (otherwise we don't care)
> >
> > let's further assume the counter does not decrement
> > more than 2^7 between two consecutive gets, then we
> > can change the wraparound check to something like
> > this:
> >
> > curr_count = get_8254_timer_count();
> >
> > do {
> > prev_count = curr_count;
> > redo:
> > curr_count = get_8254_timer_count();
> >
> > /* workaround for broken Mercury/Neptune */
> > if (prev_count - current_count >= 256)
> > goto redo;
> >
> > /* ignore values far off from zero */
> > if (prev_count > 128)
> > continue;
> >
> > } while (prev_count >= curr_count)
> >
> >
> > basically the check for (prev_count > 128) can be
> > removed but it feels a little more comfortable ...
> >
> > would such change be acceptable for mainline?
>
> Not sure... Reading time is quite performance critical; doing it twice
> would be bad. It should be acceptable if it was only done on
> Mercury/Neptune systems.
this important detail got lost over the thread
static void __init wait_8254_wraparound(void)
so I guess it should not be _too_ critical ;)
best,
Herbert
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-12-26 19:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-12-24 0:11 apic and 8254 wraparound Herbert Poetzl
2004-12-23 23:37 ` Alan Cox
2004-12-24 20:00 ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-12-24 19:40 ` Alan Cox
2004-12-25 22:48 ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-12-26 18:08 ` Pavel Machek
2004-12-26 19:42 ` Herbert Poetzl [this message]
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