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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>, Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC, PATCH 1/3] introduce SYS_CLONE_MASK
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 20:57:50 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070408165750.GA149@tv-sign.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1lkh23kkb.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>

On 04/08, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru> writes:
> 
> > For review only.
> >
> > To implement for-in-kerenl-use-only CLONE_ flags, we need to filter out them
> > in sys_clone().
> 
> Nack
> 
> The current clone_flags field is for user space consumption and we
> have proposed users for all or almost all of the remaining bits.

OK.

> If we are going to have kernel only flags please use an additional
> argument to do_fork and copy_process.

Yes, we can do this. But we have a number of architectures which use
sys_clone() to implement kernel_thread(). It would be nice to have an
architecture neutral kernel_thread() implementation as you proposed.
We should change all of them if we want to add a new parameter to
do_fork().

Perhaps it is better to add reparent_kthread() (next patch) to kthread()
and forget about CLONE_KERNEL_THREAD.

Anyway, re-parenting to swapper breaks pstree, it doesn't show kernel
threads. And if ->parent == /sbin/init, we can't remove us from ->children
(unless we forbid sub-thread-of-init exec). So the only safe change is
set ->exit_state = -1.

> Your current scheme also has the bad side that if user space supplied
> a kernel flag it is hard to detect it and return -EINVAL.  Which
> limits future expansion.  Silently dropping clone flags is a real
> pain, if you are trying to detect if a new flag has been implemented.

Yes. But that is what we are doing now. copy_process() just ignores
unknown flags.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-08 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-08 15:53 [RFC, PATCH 1/3] introduce SYS_CLONE_MASK Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-08 16:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-08 16:57   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2007-04-09  1:05     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-09  2:06       ` Roland McGrath
2007-04-09 16:20         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-09 17:30           ` Robin Holt
2007-04-10  0:35             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-10  9:56               ` Robin Holt
2007-04-09  9:06       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-09 10:43         ` Robin Holt
2007-04-09 14:36           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-09 14:52             ` Robin Holt
2007-04-10 15:47     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-10 18:20       ` Jan Engelhardt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-05-29  2:59 Albert Cahalan
2007-05-29  4:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-29  3:23 Albert Cahalan
2007-05-29  4:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-29  5:56   ` Roland McGrath
2007-05-30  0:33   ` Albert Cahalan
2007-05-30  1:43     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-26  7:34   ` Jan Engelhardt

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