From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
kir@swsoft.com, containers@lists.osdl.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
kir@openvz.org, Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>,
Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Devel] [PATCH] pidns: Place under CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL (take 2)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:17:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071027051724.GR30533@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m14pgdtbkj.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 10:40:12PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org> writes:
>
> > There isn't any hard semantics behind what is marked EXPERIMENTAL and
> > what not. In it's current state, we could even consider removing the
> > EXPERIMENTAL option and all dependencies on EXPERIMENTAL.
>
> Well I do know at least some of the things that depend on experimental
> are legitimate.
>
> I wonder if the problem is that we don't police experimental well
> enough.
>
> > Currently CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=n would cost a distribution a three digit
> > number of device drivers plus several features like e.g. NFSv4.
>
> I can see a distribution carefully cherry picking things, that the
> have an intimate knowledge about out of experimental but it doesn't
> sound right for taking things out of EXPERIMENTAL to be routine.
>
> I know I'm a little slow about getting around to it but when ever I
> have a feature that isn't EXPERIMENTAL anymore I remove the tag.
Part of the picture might be that code that was included into the kernel
usually is in a state that it works at least most time for most of the
people.
And when you think about distributions, it's hard to imagine why a
distribution should not enable more or less all EXPERIMENTAL device
drivers - an EXPERIMENTAL driver is much better than no driver for this
hardware at all.
> Eric
cu
Adrian
--
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of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
"Only a promise," Lao Er said.
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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2007-10-26 21:59 ` [Devel] [PATCH] pidns: Place under CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL (take 2) Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-27 0:24 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-27 1:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-27 2:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-27 2:18 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-27 3:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-27 4:03 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-27 4:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-27 5:17 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2007-10-27 4:40 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-27 7:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-29 18:05 ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-10-29 19:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-28 16:12 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-28 17:00 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-28 18:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-29 10:13 ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-10-29 18:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-26 22:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
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