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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] do_wait: return security_task_wait() error code in place of -ECHILD
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:03:12 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080331110312.GC400@tv-sign.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080331035949.608A226F8E9@magilla.localdomain>

On 03/30, Roland McGrath wrote:
>
> This reverts the effect of commit f2cc3eb133baa2e9dc8efd40f417106b2ee520f3
> "do_wait: fix security checks".  That change reverted the effect of commit
> 73243284463a761e04d69d22c7516b2be7de096c.  The rationale for the original
> commit still stands.  The inconsistent treatment of children hidden by
> ptrace was an unintended omission in the original change and in no way
> invalidates its purpose.

OK, it turns out I misunderstood the purpose of 73243284463a761e04d69d22c7516b2be7de096c,
its changelog says:

	wait* syscalls return -ECHILD even when an individual PID of a live child
	was requested explicitly, when security_task_wait denies the operation.
	This means that something like a broken SELinux policy can produce an
	unexpected failure that looks just like a bug with wait or ptrace or
	something.

I wrongly thought that "-ECHILD even when an individual PID ... was requested"
was the problem.

> This makes do_wait return the error returned by security_task_wait()
> (usually -EACCES) in place of -ECHILD when there are some children the
> caller would be able to wait for if not for the permission failure.  A
> permission error will give the user a clue to look for security policy
> problems, rather than for mysterious wait bugs.

OK, thanks. Again, I was confused and thought we should "hide" -EACCES
unless the child was explicitly requested.

> @@ -1463,9 +1460,22 @@ static int wait_consider_task(struct task_struct *parent,
>  			      int __user *stat_addr, struct rusage __user *ru)
>  {
>  	int ret = eligible_child(type, pid, options, p);
> -	if (ret <= 0)
> +	if (!ret)
>  		return ret;
>  
> +	if (unlikely(ret < 0)) {
> +		/*
> +		 * If we have not yet seen any eligible child,
> +		 * then let this error code replace -ECHILD.
> +		 * A permission error will give the user a clue
> +		 * to look for security policy problems, rather
> +		 * than for mysterious wait bugs.
> +		 */
> +		if (*retval)
> +			*retval = ret;
> +		return 0;
> +	}

Not that I blame this patch...

Suppose that we have 2 childs. The first one is running, the second is zombie
but nacked by security_task_wait(). Now waitpid(-1, WHOHANG|WEXITED) returns 0,
a bit strange/confusing.

Yes, we have the same behaviour before this patch, but after reading your
explanation I am starting to think this is not "optimal".

Don't get me wrong, I don't claim this should be changed, just I'd like to be
sure this didn't escape your attention.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-31 12:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-29  3:34 [PATCH 1/2] do_wait reorganization Roland McGrath
2008-03-29  3:35 ` [PATCH 2/2] ptrace children revamp Roland McGrath
2008-03-29 10:39   ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-03-29 13:10     ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-03-29 14:37       ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-04-04 21:00       ` Roland McGrath
2008-04-05 14:06         ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-04-09 20:15           ` Roland McGrath
2008-04-13 14:24             ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-04-15  1:41               ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-29 10:35 ` [PATCH 1/2] do_wait reorganization Oleg Nesterov
2008-03-31  3:54   ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-29 16:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-31  3:27   ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-31  3:57   ` [PATCH 1/3] " Roland McGrath
2008-03-31  3:59     ` [PATCH 2/3] ptrace children revamp Roland McGrath
2008-03-31  9:12       ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-03-31  3:59     ` [PATCH 3/3] do_wait: return security_task_wait() error code in place of -ECHILD Roland McGrath
2008-03-31 11:03       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2008-03-31 20:20         ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-31  8:51     ` [PATCH 1/3] do_wait reorganization Oleg Nesterov
2008-03-31 20:29       ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-31 20:07         ` Oleg Nesterov

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