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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] ptrace children revamp
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:24:01 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080413142401.GA532@tv-sign.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080409201555.7D23626F98D@magilla.localdomain>

Sorry for delay!

On 04/09, Roland McGrath wrote:
>
> > Well, I was thinking about another thread (the new parent) sleeping in
> > do_wait(__WNOTHREAD)... not sure this really matters, though.
> 
> I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter in real life.  I doubt whoever uses
> __WNOTHREAD was relying on seeing some other thread's reparented
> children.  TBH, I don't care much about __WNOTHREAD and I don't know off
> hand of anything that actually uses it.

Agreed. I never understood why we need __WNOTHREAD. The same for
->pdeath_signal in its current "per-thread" form. I think it would be
very nice to kill them both (or send the ->pdeath_signal when the whole
process exits). Then we can place all childrens on one signal->children
list. But this is a bit off-topic for now.

> I've put the latest tweaked version of this same patch series at:
> 	http://people.redhat.com/roland/kernel-patches/ptrace-cleanup.mbox
> That adds a fourth patch that fixes the aforementioned bug case that the
> current canonical kernel gets wrong.  I think that fix also incidentally
> covered the init-ignores-SIGCHLD case, but I didn't test that and I'm
> not really positive.

I think the 4th patch has a small problem,

	reparent_zombie:

		if (p->exit_signal == -1 ||
		    (thread_group_empty(p) && ignoring_children(p->real_parent)))
			list_add(&p->ptrace_list, dead);

The 2nd case, "thread_group_empty(p) && ignoring_children", looks racy.
We didn't set ->exit_signal == -1, the new parent can call do_wait() and
release "p" as soon as we drop tasklist_lock, before ptrace_exit_finish().

> I'm working on a variant of the ptrace revamp where all ptrace'd tasks
> go on a list (whether natural children or not).  (This was my original
> intent, but then I thought it might be more complication and change that
> way.  Now it's seeming attractive again.)

Yes! I thought about this too. Actually, I was very sure that this is your
plan from the the very beginning ;)

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-13 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-29  3:34 [PATCH 1/2] do_wait reorganization Roland McGrath
2008-03-29  3:35 ` [PATCH 2/2] ptrace children revamp Roland McGrath
2008-03-29 10:39   ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-03-29 13:10     ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-03-29 14:37       ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-04-04 21:00       ` Roland McGrath
2008-04-05 14:06         ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-04-09 20:15           ` Roland McGrath
2008-04-13 14:24             ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2008-04-15  1:41               ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-29 10:35 ` [PATCH 1/2] do_wait reorganization Oleg Nesterov
2008-03-31  3:54   ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-29 16:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-31  3:27   ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-31  3:57   ` [PATCH 1/3] " Roland McGrath
2008-03-31  3:59     ` [PATCH 2/3] ptrace children revamp Roland McGrath
2008-03-31  9:12       ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-03-31  3:59     ` [PATCH 3/3] do_wait: return security_task_wait() error code in place of -ECHILD Roland McGrath
2008-03-31 11:03       ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-03-31 20:20         ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-31  8:51     ` [PATCH 1/3] do_wait reorganization Oleg Nesterov
2008-03-31 20:29       ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-31 20:07         ` Oleg Nesterov

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