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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: "Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] tracing/function-return-tracer: Make the function return tracer lockless
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:23:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081113092340.GJ25479@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c62985530811130116v60d46c85j7f74230e1545eaaf@mail.gmail.com>


* Frédéric Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2008/11/13 Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>:
> >
> > * Frédéric Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> BTW I'm wondering about consistency in time capturing. When I look
> >> into kernel/sched_clock.c I see this in introduction:
> >>
> >> "The clock: sched_clock_cpu() is monotonic per cpu, and should be
> >> somewhat consistent between cpus (never more than 2 jiffies
> >> difference)."
> >>
> >> Two Jiffies, that could result in a lot of inconsistency in the way
> >> of nanosec capturing. The current task can be preempted between the
> >> call time and the return time and I'm doing a
> >> cpu_clock(raw_smp_processor_id) on these two times. Should I keep
> >> the same processor_id for these two captures? But what would happen
> >> if this cpu is shut down between these two times? One other solution
> >> would be to plan time capture in usec but I would mostly lose the
> >> interest of function cost measuring....
> >>
> >> What do you think?
> >
> > in practice the jitter is much lower - a couple of microseconds - up
> > to a few dozen at most.
> >
> > But it's a possibility, and i think the best solution is something
> > that Steve suggested yesterday: a /debug/tracing/trace_options flag
> > that turns on global ordering for tracing timestamps. Something like:
> >
> >  echo global_timestamps > /debug/tracing/trace_options
> >
> > tracers could also change the default of this flag. The function-cost
> > tracer will probably want to default to globally synchronous
> > timestamps, while the preempt and irqsoff tracers want to default to
> > local timestamps only.
> >
> > Would something like this work for you?
> >
> >        Ingo
> >
> 
> 
> But I guess this flag would apply on the timestamp inserted by the 
> ring-buffer. Unfortunately I can't use it since I have to capture 
> the clock for two times and not only during insertion in the 
> ring-buffer.

i think the clock should be a property of the tracer, not of the ring 
buffer. Hence if a tracer has the option set, it will get coherent 
timestamps - including ringbuffer insertion timestamps.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-13  9:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-12 21:47 [PATCH 1/2] tracing/function-return-tracer: Make the function return tracer lockless Frederic Weisbecker
2008-11-12 22:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-13  8:50   ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-11-13  8:55     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-13  9:16       ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-11-13  9:23         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-11-13  9:27           ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-11-13  9:40             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-13 12:36               ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-11-13 12:54                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-13 12:59                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-13 13:02                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-13 17:26                   ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-11-13 18:57                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-13 20:06                       ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-11-13 14:53 ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-13 17:01   ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-11-13 17:12     ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-13 17:21       ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-13 17:34         ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-13 17:32           ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-13 17:46             ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-11-13 18:29             ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-13 18:35               ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-13 18:55                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-13 19:03                   ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-13 19:19                     ` Andi Kleen

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