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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>,
	Hiroshi Shimamoto <h-shimamoto@ct.jp.nec.com>,
	schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com,
	npiggin@suse.de, axboe@kernel.dk
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] cpumask: smp_call_function_many()
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:57:07 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200811201757.07726.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200811201514.09511.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

On Thursday 20 November 2008 15:44, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Thursday 20 November 2008 13:51:49 Nick Piggin wrote:
> > I don't like changing of this whole smp_call_function_many scheme
> > with no justification or even hint of it in the changelog.
>
> Hi Nick,
>
> Hmm, it said "if allocation fails we fallback to smp_call_function_single
> rather than using the baroque quiescing code."
>
> More words would have been far less polite :)

Hmm, OK I missed that.


> > Of course it is obvious that smp_call_function_mask can be implemented
> > with multiple call singles. But some architectures that can do
> > broadcast IPIs (or otherwise a little extra work eg. in programming
> > the interrupt controller) will lose here.
> >
> > Also the locking and cacheline behaviour is probably actually worse.
>
> Dude, we've failed kmalloc.  To paraphrase Monty Python, the parrot is
> fucked. By this stage the disks are churning, the keyboard isn't responding
> and the OOM killer is killing the mission-critical database and other vital
> apps. Everything else is failing on random syscalls like unlink().  Admins
> wondering how long it'll take to fsck if they just hit the big red switch
> now.

Oh no it happens. It's a GFP_ATOMIC allocation isn't it? But yeah it's not
performance critical.


> OK, maybe it's not that bad, but worrying about cacheline behaviour?  I'd
> worry about how recently that failure path has been tested.
>
> I can prepare a separate patch which just changes this over, rather than
> doing it as part of the smp_call_function_many() conversion, but I couldn't
> stomach touching that quiescing code :(

What's wrong with it? It's well commented and I would have thought pretty
simple. A bit ugly, but straightforward. I still don't really see why it
needs changing.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-20  6:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-19 14:45 [PATCH 1/1] cpumask: smp_call_function_many() Rusty Russell
2008-11-19 20:23 ` Hiroshi Shimamoto
2008-11-19 23:38   ` Rusty Russell
2008-11-20  3:21 ` Nick Piggin
2008-11-20  4:44   ` Rusty Russell
2008-11-20  6:57     ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2008-11-20 11:08       ` Rusty Russell
2008-11-20 11:12         ` Nick Piggin

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