From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
Subject: Re: BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 13:01:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090907110146.GB6393@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <h81v7t$p6e$1@ger.gmane.org>
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 06:38:36AM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Unfortunately, I can't come up with any way to somehow benchmark all of
> this. There's no benchmark for "fluidity" and "responsiveness". Running
> the Doom 3 benchmark, or any other benchmark, doesn't say anything about
> responsiveness, it only measures how many frames were calculated in a
> specific period of time. How "stable" (with no stalls) those frames were
> making it to the screen is not measurable.
That looks eventually benchmarkable. This is about latency.
For example, you could try to run high load tasks in the
background and then launch a task that wakes up in middle/large
periods to do something. You could measure the time it takes to wake
it up to perform what it wants.
We have some events tracing infrastructure in the kernel that can
snapshot the wake up and sched switch events.
Having CONFIG_EVENT_TRACING=y should be sufficient for that.
You just need to mount a debugfs point, say in /debug.
Then you can activate these sched events by doing:
echo 0 > /debug/tracing/tracing_on
echo 1 > /debug/tracing/events/sched/sched_switch/enable
echo 1 > /debug/tracing/events/sched/sched_wake_up/enable
#Launch your tasks
echo 1 > /debug/tracing/tracing_on
#Wait for some time
echo 0 > /debug/tracing/tracing_off
That will require some parsing of the result in /debug/tracing/trace
to get the delays between wake_up events and switch in events
for the task that periodically wakes up and then produce some
statistics such as the average or the maximum latency.
That's a bit of a rough approach to measure such latencies but that
should work.
> If BFS would imply small drops in pure performance counted in
> instructions per seconds, that would be a totally acceptable regression
> for desktop/multimedia/gaming PCs. Not for server machines, of course.
> However, on my machine, BFS is faster in classic workloads. When I run
> "make -j2" with BFS and the standard scheduler, BFS always finishes a bit
> faster. Not by much, but still. One thing I'm noticing here is that BFS
> produces 100% CPU load on each core with "make -j2" while the normal
> scheduler stays at about 90-95% with -j2 or higher in at least one of the
> cores. There seems to be under-utilization of CPU time.
That also could be benchmarkable by using the above sched events and
look at the average time spent in a cpu to run the idle tasks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-07 11:01 UTC|newest]
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2009-09-06 20:59 BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 2:05 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-07 12:16 ` [quad core results] " Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 12:36 ` Stefan Richter
2009-09-07 13:41 ` Markus Tornqvist
2009-09-07 13:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 5:54 ` Markus Tornqvist
2009-09-07 14:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-07 15:20 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-07 15:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-07 15:47 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-07 15:24 ` Xavier Bestel
2009-09-07 15:37 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-07 16:00 ` Diego Calleja
2009-09-07 15:34 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07 3:38 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07 11:01 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2009-09-08 18:15 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-10 20:25 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-07 14:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-08 7:19 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 8:31 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-08 20:22 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-08 21:10 ` Michal Schmidt
2009-09-08 21:11 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-08 21:40 ` GeunSik Lim
2009-09-08 22:36 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-09 9:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-09 11:14 ` David Newall
2009-09-09 11:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-09 11:55 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-11 1:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-16 18:27 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-17 1:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-01 9:36 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-08 8:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-08 10:13 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 11:32 ` Juergen Beisert
2009-09-08 22:00 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 23:20 ` Jiri Kosina
2009-09-08 23:38 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 12:03 ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-08 21:28 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 14:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-08 22:53 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07 23:54 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-09-08 11:30 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07 3:50 ` Con Kolivas
2009-09-07 18:20 ` Jerome Glisse
2009-09-07 9:49 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 10:12 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07 10:41 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 11:57 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 14:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 17:38 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 20:44 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 9:13 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 15:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-08 20:34 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-09 6:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 8:34 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-09 8:52 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09 9:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-09 9:18 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09 9:05 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-09 9:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-09 9:40 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-09 10:17 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-10 19:45 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-10 20:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 20:39 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-10 20:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 21:19 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-11 9:26 ` Mat
2009-09-12 11:26 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-09 9:10 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-09 11:54 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-09 12:20 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-09 18:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 20:12 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-09 20:50 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 1:02 ` Con Kolivas
2009-09-10 11:03 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 3:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-10 6:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 6:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 9:54 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 10:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 10:11 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 10:28 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 10:57 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-10 11:09 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 11:21 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-10 11:24 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 11:28 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-10 11:35 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 11:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-10 16:02 ` Bret Towe
2009-09-10 16:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-10 16:12 ` Bret Towe
2009-09-10 16:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 16:33 ` Bret Towe
2009-09-10 17:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 17:53 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-10 18:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 18:51 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Disable NEW_FAIR_SLEEPERS for now tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 18:57 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Fix sched::sched_stat_wait tracepoint field tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 9:48 ` BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 9:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 10:01 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 6:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-10 6:58 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 7:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 9:44 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 9:45 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 13:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-09-10 7:33 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 7:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 7:53 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 10:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 10:09 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 18:00 ` [crash, bisected] Re: clocksource: Resolve cpu hotplug dead lock with TSC unstable Ingo Molnar
2009-09-11 7:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-11 7:48 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-09-11 13:33 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-09-11 18:22 ` [tip:timers/core] clocksource: Resolve cpu hotplug dead lock with TSC unstable, fix crash tip-bot for Martin Schwidefsky
2009-09-14 15:19 ` [crash, bisected] Re: clocksource: Resolve cpu hotplug dead lock with TSC unstable Ingo Molnar
2009-09-14 15:37 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-09-14 17:59 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-09-10 6:59 ` BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 12:48 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09 15:37 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Turn off child_runs_first tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09 17:57 ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-09 18:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 18:59 ` Chris Friesen
2009-09-09 19:48 ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-09 15:37 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Re-tune the scheduler latency defaults to decrease worst-case latencies tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2009-09-12 11:45 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-09 15:37 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Keep kthreads at default priority tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09 16:55 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-09-09 17:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-09 17:34 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-12 11:48 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-12 12:19 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09 11:52 ` BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07 18:02 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-07 18:46 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 20:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 20:46 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 21:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-07 21:05 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 22:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 7:38 ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-10 12:19 ` latt location (Was Re: BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements) Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 15:16 ` BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Michael Buesch
2009-09-07 18:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 18:47 ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-07 18:51 ` Michael Buesch
2009-09-07 20:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 23:24 ` Pekka Pietikainen
2009-09-08 8:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-08 8:13 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 10:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-08 10:40 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 11:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-08 19:06 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 12:00 ` el_es
2009-09-08 15:45 ` Michael Buesch
2009-09-08 7:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-08 9:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-08 13:09 ` Ralf Baechle
2009-09-09 1:36 ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-08 13:09 ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-09 0:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-09 0:37 ` David Miller
2009-09-08 14:45 ` Michael Buesch
2009-09-18 11:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-18 14:46 ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-19 18:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-19 18:43 ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-19 19:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-19 20:15 ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-19 20:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-19 20:33 ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-20 18:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-08 12:57 ` Epic regression in throughput since v2.6.23 Serge Belyshev
2009-09-08 17:47 ` Jesse Brandeburg
2009-09-08 18:20 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 19:00 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-09-08 19:20 ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-08 19:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-09-08 18:37 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 22:15 ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-09 15:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 20:49 ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-09 21:23 ` Cory Fields
2009-09-10 6:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 23:23 ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-11 6:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-11 8:55 ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-13 15:27 ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-13 15:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-13 19:17 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-14 6:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-16 19:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-16 23:18 ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-17 4:55 ` [patchlet] " Mike Galbraith
2009-09-17 5:06 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-17 7:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 7:43 ` [updated] BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Ingo Molnar
2009-09-14 9:46 ` Phoronix CFS vs BFS bencharks Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-14 11:35 ` Mike Galbraith
[not found] ` <f42384a10909140727k463ff460q3859892dcb79bcc5@mail.gmail.com>
2009-09-14 15:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-14 19:14 ` Marcin Letyns
2009-09-14 20:49 ` Willy Tarreau
2009-09-15 8:37 ` Mike Galbraith
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-09-10 21:17 BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-11 10:10 Mat
2009-09-11 18:33 Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-09-12 7:37 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-12 7:51 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-12 8:27 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-09-12 9:03 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-12 9:34 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
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