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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Cc: Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	Kuninori Morimoto <morimoto.kuninori@renesas.com>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Magnus Damm <damm@opensource.se>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Null suspend/resume functions
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:14:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200911172314.04396.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091117125901.GF823@rakim.wolfsonmicro.main>

On Tuesday 17 November 2009, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 09:46:35PM +0900, Magnus Damm wrote:
> 
> > On SuperH we have Runtime PM enabled on a few platforms together with
> > a few updated drivers. The latest driver to become more power aware is
> > this FSI driver.
> 
> I understand exactly what the runtime PM stuff and the driver are doing
> here, the issue is the mandatory suspend and resume functions.
> 
> > At this point the SuperH specific platform bus code requires the
> > callbacks ->runtime_suspend() and ->runtime_resume() to be present. It
> > may be a good idea to allow them to be NULL in the future or maybe
> > having some shared functions, but before starting to break out stuff
> > I'd like to see how other Runtime PM implementations deal with this.
> > So unless people object I prefer to keep it as-is for now.
> 
> What is the reason for requiring that the driver provide stub functions?
> For me the issue is that if it's mandatory for the driver to provide the
> functions then having stub functions in there makes the driver look like
> it is abusing the API by not implementing mandatory functionality.

In fact, it's not mandatory for bus types, not for drivers.  IMO bus types
really have to know how to suspend a device and how to resume it,
otherwise the core framework won't be useful anyway.  What the bus type does
about drivers not implementing ->runtime_suspend() or ->runtime_resume(), it's
up to the bus type.  That's even documented IIRC.

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-17 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <ud43sjtaf.wl%morimoto.kuninori@renesas.com>
2009-11-09 10:58 ` [alsa-devel] [PATCH 1/2 v2] ASoC: sh: fsi: Add runtime PM support Mark Brown
2009-11-09 13:31   ` Mark Brown
2009-11-16 15:30     ` Null suspend/resume functions Mark Brown
2009-11-16 19:07       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-11-17 11:52       ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2009-11-17 12:41         ` Mark Brown
2009-11-18 16:09           ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-19 11:21             ` Mark Brown
2009-11-21 23:45               ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-23 11:02                 ` Mark Brown
2009-11-24 11:57                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-17 12:46       ` Magnus Damm
2009-11-17 12:59         ` Mark Brown
2009-11-17 22:14           ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2009-11-18 13:41             ` Mark Brown
2009-11-18 10:09           ` Magnus Damm
2009-11-18 12:05             ` Mark Brown
2009-11-27 11:06   ` [alsa-devel] [PATCH 1/2 v2] ASoC: sh: fsi: Add runtime PM support Mark Brown

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