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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes.berg@intel.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
	Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Unified Ring Buffer (Next Generation)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 09:48:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100520134838.GA26573@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100520064139.GA15946@basil.fritz.box>

* Andi Kleen (andi@firstfloor.org) wrote:
> > The plan here is to create a ring buffer that supports per-buffer instance
> > "flags" that specify what must be supported: e.g. either splice() or mmap(),
> > global vs per-cpu buffers, etc.
> 
> And you plan to test all those flags in the hot path? 

No, I plan to make the hot path inline in the caller, so the flags can
statically select the proper behavior at compile-time. We can test flags
dynamically on the slow-path to save space.

[...]

> > 
> > But all in all, I think users needing _something_ to perform system-wide tracing
> > shout a lot louder than users who need to save a few bytes. So let's try to get
> > something good in first, while keeping an eye on the object size, and if it
> > happens to be too large for some users, then they can always implement a
> > slower and less efficient ring_buffer_tiny.c if they feel like it.
> 
> They don't need to, they already have kfifo.
> 

Right.

> > I totally agree with you. This is in good part why I spent a large part of 2009
> > writing papers explaining my ring buffer, doing Promela models and formal proofs
> > of correctness. I think after all that work, the abstractions I will use will be
> > much easier to grap by anyone willing to do a bit of reading.
> 
> Writing papers is not a replacement for simple maintainable code.

True. I rather mean "in addition to simple maintainable code".

Thanks,

Mathieu


-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
Operating System Efficiency R&D Consultant
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-20 13:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-19 17:51 [RFC] Unified Ring Buffer (Next Generation) Steven Rostedt
2010-05-19 18:10 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-19 18:44   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-19 19:25     ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-19 19:38       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-19 18:47   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-20  6:41     ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-20 13:48       ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2010-05-19 19:05 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-20  9:31 ` [RFD] Future tracing/instrumentation directions Ingo Molnar
2010-05-20 10:07   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-05-20 11:07     ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-05-20 11:42       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-20 11:48         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-20 12:15       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-05-20 12:19       ` Theodore Tso
2010-05-20 11:36     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-20 13:06       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-05-20 14:38   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-20 15:04     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-20 20:12     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-21 17:49     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-24 20:13       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-21  9:24   ` Li Zefan

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