From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Johannes Berg <johannes.berg@intel.com>,
Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Unified Ring Buffer (Next Generation)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 09:48:38 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100520134838.GA26573@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100520064139.GA15946@basil.fritz.box>
* Andi Kleen (andi@firstfloor.org) wrote:
> > The plan here is to create a ring buffer that supports per-buffer instance
> > "flags" that specify what must be supported: e.g. either splice() or mmap(),
> > global vs per-cpu buffers, etc.
>
> And you plan to test all those flags in the hot path?
No, I plan to make the hot path inline in the caller, so the flags can
statically select the proper behavior at compile-time. We can test flags
dynamically on the slow-path to save space.
[...]
> >
> > But all in all, I think users needing _something_ to perform system-wide tracing
> > shout a lot louder than users who need to save a few bytes. So let's try to get
> > something good in first, while keeping an eye on the object size, and if it
> > happens to be too large for some users, then they can always implement a
> > slower and less efficient ring_buffer_tiny.c if they feel like it.
>
> They don't need to, they already have kfifo.
>
Right.
> > I totally agree with you. This is in good part why I spent a large part of 2009
> > writing papers explaining my ring buffer, doing Promela models and formal proofs
> > of correctness. I think after all that work, the abstractions I will use will be
> > much easier to grap by anyone willing to do a bit of reading.
>
> Writing papers is not a replacement for simple maintainable code.
True. I rather mean "in addition to simple maintainable code".
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
Operating System Efficiency R&D Consultant
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-20 13:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-19 17:51 [RFC] Unified Ring Buffer (Next Generation) Steven Rostedt
2010-05-19 18:10 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-19 18:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-19 19:25 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-19 19:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-19 18:47 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-20 6:41 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-20 13:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2010-05-19 19:05 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-20 9:31 ` [RFD] Future tracing/instrumentation directions Ingo Molnar
2010-05-20 10:07 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-05-20 11:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-05-20 11:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-20 11:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-20 12:15 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-05-20 12:19 ` Theodore Tso
2010-05-20 11:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-20 13:06 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-05-20 14:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-20 15:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-20 20:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-21 17:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-24 20:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-21 9:24 ` Li Zefan
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