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* [RFC] Introduce barrier2(a, b) (was: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 08/10] rcu: Add a TINY_PREEMPT_RCU)
@ 2010-08-17 12:33 Mathieu Desnoyers
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From: Mathieu Desnoyers @ 2010-08-17 12:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lai Jiangshan
  Cc: paulmck, linux-kernel, mingo, dipankar, akpm, josh, dvhltc, niv,
	tglx, peterz, rostedt, Valdis.Kletnieks, dhowells, eric.dumazet,
	Linus Torvalds

(re-threaded because this looks like a whole new topic here)

* Lai Jiangshan (laijs@cn.fujitsu.com) wrote:
> On 08/17/2010 06:24 AM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 06:07:05PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> >
> >> --(t->rcu_read_lock_nesting)
> >>
> >> could be split in two distinct operations:
> >>
> >> read t->rcu_read_lock_nesting
> >> decrement t->rcu_read_lock_nesting
> >>
> >> Note that in order to know the result required to pass the sequence
> >> point "&&" (the test), we only need to perform the read, not the
> >> decrement. AFAIU, gcc would be in its rights to move the
> >> t->rcu_read_lock_nesting update after the volatile access.
> > 
> > I will run this by some compiler experts.
> > 
> 
> We can just use "read and decrement statements" instead of "--" to
> avoid dependency from compilers.

Maybe it is time to introduce a more specific class of compiler barriers
so developers won't be tempted to use volatile accesses. I propose:

#define barrier2(a, b) __asm__ __volatile__("": "+rm"(a), "+rm"(b))

(Disclaimer: the barrier2() above should be run through compiler experts
to ensure that it does the same as a "memory" clobber applied
specifically to "a" and "b")

I assume you are proposing something like:

read t->rcu_read_lock_nesting
decrement t->rcu_read_lock_nesting
barrier();	/* some nice comment */
read "special" value
...

I agree that explicitly coding the barrier() forces us to document the
need for compiler ordering here. This would be a bit more verbose, and
IMHO good in this case. Volatile accesses "work", but does not do a very
good documentation job. We could argue, in favor of volatile, that they
only apply ordering to the volatile accesses, not all other accesses
around, which is a weaker constraint and therefore does not limit
compiler optimisations as much as barrier().

With something like barrier2(), we can do the following, which does the
best of both worlds: specific compiler ordering (without volatiles!!)
and good documentation. Moreover, it does not order with respect to
other volatile accesses we don't care about.

void __rcu_read_unlock(void)
{
	struct task_struct *t = current;
	barrier();  /* needed if we ever invoke rcu_read_unlock in rcutiny.c */
	if (--t->rcu_read_lock_nesting == 0) {
		/*
		 * Update rcu_read_lock_nesting before reading
		 * rcu_read_unlock_special so we don't miss a
		 * preemption.
		 */
		barrier2(t->rcu_read_lock_nesting, t->rcu_read_unlock_special);
		if (unlikely(t->rcu_read_unlock_special))
			rcu_read_unlock_special(t);
	}
#ifdef CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING
	WARN_ON_ONCE(t->rcu_read_lock_nesting < 0);
#endif /* #ifdef CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING */
}

Thoughts ?

Thanks,

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
Operating System Efficiency R&D Consultant
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

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