From: Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer@who-t.net>
To: Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>
Cc: Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires@gmail.com>,
Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
chatty@enac.fr, chasedouglas@gmail.com,
linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Input: MT - Include win8 support
Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 09:52:19 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120508235219.GA4067@yabbi.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120508184052.GA23748@polaris.bitmath.org>
On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 08:40:52PM +0200, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
> > > to aid in the discussion, I have shared a drawing of the MT model
> > > and the (supposed) win8 model.
> > >
> > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KKu7kqPOsvE9tCmWhdGnmO8tgmN0Cd-Mv_crVaCZueY/view
> >
> > having an asciiart version of this in Documentation/ would be quite useful,
> > IMO
>
> Yep, that ought to be possible to arrange.
>
> > Insert a paragraph into the actual documentation. I think that's more
> > helpful than tacking it on (if not quite as nice in a diff)
> >
> > "The orientation of the ellipse. The value should describe a signed quarter
> > of a revolution clockwise around the touch center. The signed value range
> > is arbitrary, but zero should be returned for a finger aligned along the Y
> > axis of the surface, a negative value when finger is turned to the left, and
> > a positive value when finger turned to the right. When completely aligned
> > with the X axis, the range max should be returned.
> >
> > Touch ellipsis are symmetrical by default. For devices capable of true 360
> > degree orientation, the reported orientation must exceed the range max to
> > indicate more than a quarter of a revolution. For an upside-down finger,
> > range max * 2 should be returned.
> >
> > Orientation can be omitted if the touching object is circular, or if the
> > information is not available in the kernel driver. Partial orientation
> > support is possible if the device can distinguish between the two axis, but
> > not (uniquely) any values in between. In such cases, the range of
> > ABS_MT_ORIENTATION should be [0, 1] [4]."
>
> Looks good, will copy that in its entirety. :-)
>
> > Not a big fan of reporting values above absmin/absmax, tbh. It means we
> > can't rely on the axis values and have to special-case it. Plus, there's no
> > way to detect this before you actually get a value.
>
> True, and I am open to other suggestions. However, I think the
> proposal integrates pretty well with the existing model and is likely
> to produce reasonable results without userland modifications.
>
> > > Looking at the figure, it is clear that the MT model has two centers,
> > > one for each ellipse. Thus, center is not discriminating
> > > enough. Perhaps ABS_MT_OUTER_X/Y is more appropriate, then?
> >
> > ABS_MT_OUTER_CENTER
>
> I appreciate the suggestion, but along two-word combinations,
> ABS_MT_OUTER_POSITION would integrate better with existing names. Both
> seem awfully long, though.
problem I see with "outer position" is that I'd associate it with the
top/left position of whatever "outer" is, not with the center of said
envelope. that's why I'd argue that "center" should be somewhere in the
name.
Cheers,
Peter
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-08 23:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-05 15:08 [RFC] Input: MT - Include win8 support Henrik Rydberg
2012-05-05 20:07 ` Chase Douglas
2012-05-08 18:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-08 19:37 ` Henrik Rydberg
2012-05-06 14:41 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2012-05-06 18:07 ` Henrik Rydberg
2012-05-06 18:28 ` Henrik Rydberg
2012-05-08 6:02 ` Peter Hutterer
2012-05-08 18:40 ` Henrik Rydberg
2012-05-08 23:52 ` Peter Hutterer [this message]
2012-05-09 5:35 ` Henrik Rydberg
2012-05-09 18:10 ` Ping Cheng
2012-05-09 19:39 ` Henrik Rydberg
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