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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>
Cc: Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Michal Simek <monstr@monstr.eu>,
	Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] early_printk: consolidate random copies of identical code
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:35:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130307133542.8bdb23612990fa25c5cc9112@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5138EF7F.1050003@windriver.com>

On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 14:50:23 -0500 Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com> wrote:

> This brings up a recurring question.  I was tempted to just go make
> CONFIG_EARLY_PRINTK depend on CONFIG_PRINTK, but lately I've faced
> pushback when trying to "fix" things like seeing ARM OMAP USB options
> for an x86 build[1], and GOLDFISH virt drivers being offered even
> when the end user already said no to GOLDFISH[2].
> 
> Do we want to use dependencies to reflect the real world layout of
> platforms/systems, or do we want to go the minimal dependency
> approach, where we are building sparc specific drivers on mips just
> because we can?
> 
> I think the former is better from a user specific point of view, as
> the maze of Kconfig is better as a tree topology with branches that
> have clear dependencies that exclude them, versus it being a flat
> monolithic space where anything can select anything.
> 
> Arguments I've heard for the latter seem to be developer centric
> (i.e forcing wider build coverage on the population as a whole, etc)

For me personally, I really really want good compilation coverage.  It
drives me bats when I merge a patch but have to jump through a series
of hoops (such as not having the appropriate cross-compiler!) to be
able to build the thing.

otoh, offering useless stuff to non-kernel-developers has downsides
with no balancing benefit, and we really should optimise things for
our users because there are so many more of them than there are of us.

I wish we could do both :(   CONFIG_AKPM?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-03-07 21:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-07 19:15 [PATCH v2] early_printk: consolidate random copies of identical code Paul Gortmaker
2013-03-07 19:25 ` Andrew Morton
2013-03-07 19:50   ` Paul Gortmaker
2013-03-07 20:05     ` Joe Perches
2013-03-07 21:35     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2013-03-07 21:41       ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-03-07 22:47       ` Rob Landley
2013-03-08  0:49       ` Paul Gortmaker
2013-03-08  0:56         ` Andrew Morton
2013-03-08  1:15           ` Paul Gortmaker
2013-03-08  1:10         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-03-08 15:29           ` Guenter Roeck
2013-03-07 20:20   ` Paul Gortmaker
2013-03-07 21:25     ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-03-07 21:43       ` Andrew Morton
2013-03-07 22:34         ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-03-08 16:11           ` [PATCH v3] " Paul Gortmaker
2013-03-08 21:46             ` Andrew Morton
2013-03-23 21:23             ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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