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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
Cc: Milos Vyletel <milos@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	He Kuang <hekuang@huawei.com>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	"open list:PERFORMANCE EVENT..." <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] perf/tools: put new buildid locks to use
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 19:38:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150514173807.GA19338@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150514113821.GB1313@krava.redhat.com>


* Milos Vyletel <milos@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 01:38:21PM +0200, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 12:40:59PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > 
> > > * Milos Vyletel <milos@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Use new read/write locks when accesing buildid directory on places where
> > > > we may race if multiple instances are run simultaneously.
> > > 
> > > Dunno, this will create locking interaction between multiple instances 
> > > of perf - hanging each other, etc.
> > > 
> > > And it seems unnecessary: the buildid hierarchy is already spread out. 
> > > What kind of races might there be?
> > 
> > there was just recently one fixed by commit:
> >   0635b0f71424 perf tools: Fix race in build_id_cache__add_s()
> > 
> > havent checked the final patch yet, but the idea is to
> > protect us from similar bugs
> 
> right. on top of race with EEXIST couple more are possible (EMLINK, 
> ENOSPC, EDQUOT, ENOMEM... the only way to prevent them all is to 
> lock this kind of operations and make sure we run one at a time.

Yeah, so the race pointed out in 0635b0f71424 can be (and should be) 
fixed without locking:

 - first create the file under a process-private name under 
   ~/.debug/tmp/ if the target does not exist yet

 - then fully fill it in with content

 - then link(2) it to the public target name, which VFS operation is
   atomic and may fail safely: at which point it got already created
   by someone else.

 - finally unlink() the private instance name and the target will now
   be the only instance left: either created by us, or by some other 
   perf instance in the rare racy case.

Since all of ~/.debug is on the same filesystem this should work fine.

Beyond avoiding locking this approach has another advantage: it's 
transaction safe, so a crashed/interrupted perf instance won't corrupt 
the debug database, it will only put fully constructed files into the 
public build-id namespace. It at most leaves a stale private file 
around in ~/.debug/tmp/.

Really, we should be following the example of Git, which is using a 
similar append-mostly flow to handle data, and generally avoids file 
locking as much as possible - which is a whole new can of worms.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-14 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-14  7:28 [PATCH 0/2] Add perf debug dir locking Milos Vyletel
2015-05-14  7:28 ` [PATCH 1/2] perf/tools: add read/write buildid dir locks Milos Vyletel
2015-05-14  7:28 ` [PATCH 2/2] perf/tools: put new buildid locks to use Milos Vyletel
2015-05-14 10:40   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-14 11:38     ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-14 15:44       ` Milos Vyletel
2015-05-14 17:38         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-14 17:38       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-05-20  7:27         ` Milos Vyletel
2015-06-03 11:13         ` Milos Vyletel
2015-06-03 11:21           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-03 11:27             ` Milos Vyletel

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