From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/10] sched: Migrate sched to use new tick dependency mask model
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 16:50:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150803145031.GD25554@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150803140046.GK19282@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 04:00:46PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 06:42:12PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > Instead of providing asynchronous checks for the nohz subsystem to verify
> > sched tick dependency, migrate sched to the new mask.
> >
> > The easiest is to recycle the current asynchronous tick dependency check
> > which verifies the class of the current task and its requirements for
> > periodic preemption checks.
> >
> > We need to evaluate this tick dependency on three places:
> >
> > 1) Task enqueue: One or more tasks have been enqueued, we must check
> > if those are competing with the current task.
> >
> > 2) Task dequeue: A possibly competing task has been dequeued, clear the
> > tick dependency if needed.
> >
> > 3) schedule(): we might be switching to a task of another scheduler
> > class. Each class has its preemption rules, we must re-evaluate it.
>
> This is insane.. You add a whole bunch of work per wakeup/sleep/context
> switch to avoid some work at tick time. That's a broken trade-off.
>
> We can context switch _waaaay_ more than we have ticks.
>
> Furthermore, you do tons of pointless work, we call add_nr_running()
> from the individual classes, and then your routine goes and checks what
> class we're in etc..
I think I could remove the context switch part. But then I need to find a
way to perform these checks on enqueue and dequeue task time:
sched_update_dependency(cpu)
{
if (SCHED_FIFO task on the cpu runqueue) {
tick_nohz_clear_dep(cpu)
return;
}
if (SCHED_RR task on the cpu runqueue) {
if (more than one such task) {
tick_nohz_set_dep(cpu)
return;
}
}
if (SCHED_NORMAL task on the cpu runqueue) {
if (more than one such task) {
tick_nohz_set_dep(cpu)
return;
}
}
tick_nohz_clear_dep();
}
That's still heavyweight because enqueue and dequeue can be very frequent
but we get rid of the sched_switch hook because we don't care about the
current task at all.
Now, consider that we could cut all this checks into parts and optimize
that per sched class::enqueue/dequeue.
So we can divide the dependency into:
struct rq {
...
int nr_fifo;
int nr_rr;
int nr_normal;
}
int rq_update_tick_dep(struct rq *rq)
{
if (rq->nr_fifo && (rq->nr_rr > 1 || rq->nr_normal > 1))
tick_nohz_set_dep(SCHED_TICK_DEP);
else
tick_nohz_set_dep(SCHED_TICK_DEP)
}
Then we add or dec the relevant counter fields from the various sched_class::enqueue/dequeue.
I think I saw some of these counters already exist but perhaps not all of them. There are
per class rqs but rt_nr_running counts tasks without distinction of policies.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-03 14:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-23 16:42 [PATCH 00/10] nohz: Tick dependency mask v2 Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 01/10] nohz: Remove idle task special case Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 02/10] nohz: Restart nohz full tick from irq exit Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 03/10] nohz: Move tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick() above its users Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 04/10] nohz: Remove useless argument on tick_nohz_task_switch() Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-03 12:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-03 12:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-03 13:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 05/10] nohz: New tick dependency mask Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-24 16:55 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-24 17:16 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-24 17:43 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-08-03 12:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-03 12:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-03 13:05 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-03 13:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-03 13:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-03 12:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-03 13:09 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-03 13:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-03 13:55 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-03 14:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 06/10] perf: Migrate perf to use new tick dependency mask model Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 07/10] sched: Migrate sched " Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-23 16:55 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-24 16:56 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-29 13:01 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-03 14:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-03 14:50 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2015-08-03 17:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-03 17:30 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-04 7:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-10 14:02 ` Juri Lelli
2015-08-10 14:16 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-10 14:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-10 15:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-10 15:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-10 15:43 ` Juri Lelli
2015-08-10 16:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-10 15:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-07-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 08/10] posix-cpu-timers: Migrate " Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-24 16:57 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-29 13:23 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-29 17:24 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-30 0:44 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-30 14:31 ` Luiz Capitulino
2015-07-30 14:46 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-30 19:35 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-30 19:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-30 19:52 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-31 14:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-03 15:59 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-08-03 18:01 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-03 17:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-03 17:39 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-03 19:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-06 17:13 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 09/10] sched-clock: " Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 10/10] nohz: Remove task switch obsolete tick dependency check Frederic Weisbecker
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