From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@ezchip.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] nohz: New tick dependency mask
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 23:20:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151201222025.GA31973@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151201204109.GN17308@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 09:41:09PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 03:22:04PM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > The tick dependency is evaluated on every IRQ. This is a batch of checks
> > which determine whether it is safe to stop the tick or not. These checks
> > are often split in many details: posix cpu timers, scheduler, sched clock,
> > perf events. Each of which are made of smaller details: posix cpu
> > timer involves checking process wide timers then thread wide timers. Perf
> > involves checking freq events then more per cpu details.
> >
> > Checking these details asynchronously every time we update the full
> > dynticks state bring avoidable overhead and a messy layout.
> >
> > Lets introduce instead tick dependency masks: one for system wide
> > dependency (unstable sched clock), one for CPU wide dependency (sched,
> > perf), and task/signal level dependencies. The subsystems are responsible
> > of setting and clearing their dependency through a set of APIs that will
> > take care of concurrent dependency mask modifications and kick targets
> > to restart the relevant CPU tick whenever needed.
>
> Maybe better explain why we need the per task and per signal thingy?
I'll detail that some more in the changelog. The only user of the per task/per signal
tick dependency is posix cpu timer. I've been first proposing a global tick dependency
as soon as any posix cpu timer is armed. It simplified everything but some reviewers
complained (eg: some users might want to run posix timers on housekeepers without
bothering full dynticks CPUs). I could remove the per signal dependency with dispatching
it through all threads in the group each time there is an update but that's the best I can
think of.
>
> > +static void trace_tick_dependency(unsigned long dep)
> > +{
> > + if (dep & TICK_POSIX_TIMER_MASK) {
> > + trace_tick_stop(0, "posix timers running\n");
> > + return;
> > + }
> > +
> > + if (dep & TICK_PERF_EVENTS_MASK) {
> > + trace_tick_stop(0, "perf events running\n");
> > + return;
> > + }
> > +
> > + if (dep & TICK_SCHED_MASK) {
> > + trace_tick_stop(0, "more than 1 task in runqueue\n");
> > + return;
> > + }
> > +
> > + if (dep & TICK_CLOCK_UNSTABLE_MASK)
> > + trace_tick_stop(0, "unstable sched clock\n");
> > +}
>
> I would suggest ditching the strings and using the
Using a code value instead?
>
> > +static void kick_all_work_fn(struct work_struct *work)
> > +{
> > + tick_nohz_full_kick_all();
> > +}
> > +static DECLARE_WORK(kick_all_work, kick_all_work_fn);
> > +
> > +void __tick_nohz_set_dep_delayed(enum tick_dependency_bit bit, unsigned long *dep)
> > +{
> > + unsigned long prev;
> > +
> > + prev = fetch_or(dep, BIT_MASK(bit));
> > + if (!prev) {
> > + /*
> > + * We need the IPIs to be sent from sane process context.
>
> Why ?
Because posix timers code is all called with interrupts disabled and we can't
send IPIs then.
>
> > + * The posix cpu timers are always set with irqs disabled.
> > + */
> > + schedule_work(&kick_all_work);
> > + }
> > +}
> > +
> > +/*
> > + * Set a global tick dependency. Lets do the wide IPI kick asynchronously
> > + * for callers with irqs disabled.
>
> This seems to suggest you can call this with IRQs disabled
Ah right, that's a misleading comment. We need to use the _delayed() version
when interrupts are disabled.
Thanks.
>
> > + */
> > +void tick_nohz_set_dep(enum tick_dependency_bit bit)
> > +{
> > + unsigned long prev;
> > +
> > + prev = fetch_or(&tick_dependency, BIT_MASK(bit));
> > + if (!prev)
> > + tick_nohz_full_kick_all();
>
> But that function seems implemented using smp_call_function_many() which
> cannot be called with IRQs disabled.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-01 22:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-13 14:22 [PATCH 0/7] nohz: Tick dependency mask v3 Frederic Weisbecker
2015-11-13 14:22 ` [PATCH 1/7] atomic: Export fetch_or() Frederic Weisbecker
2015-11-24 15:58 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-11-24 21:19 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-11-24 21:48 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-11-30 17:36 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-11-30 18:17 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-11-25 9:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-13 14:22 ` [PATCH 2/7] nohz: New tick dependency mask Frederic Weisbecker
2015-11-24 16:19 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-11-25 11:32 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-12-01 20:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-01 22:20 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2015-12-02 10:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-02 14:08 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-12-02 15:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-08 15:57 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-12-02 12:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-02 14:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-12-02 12:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-02 14:11 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-11-13 14:22 ` [PATCH 3/7] perf: Migrate perf to use new tick dependency mask model Frederic Weisbecker
2015-11-24 16:19 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-11-25 12:34 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-12-02 16:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-02 17:03 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-12-02 17:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-13 14:22 ` [PATCH 4/7] sched: Account rr and fifo tasks separately Frederic Weisbecker
2015-12-02 12:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-02 14:16 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-11-13 14:22 ` [PATCH 5/7] sched: Migrate sched to use new tick dependency mask model Frederic Weisbecker
2015-11-13 14:22 ` [PATCH 6/7] posix-cpu-timers: Migrate " Frederic Weisbecker
2015-11-13 14:22 ` [PATCH 7/7] sched-clock: " Frederic Weisbecker
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