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From: Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>
To: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akinobu.mita@gmail.com,
	jack@suse.cz, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] lib/spinlock_debug.c: prevent a recursive cycle in the debug code
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 08:54:48 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160128235448.GC31266@X58A-UD3R> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56AA9F63.9070600@hurleysoftware.com>

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 03:08:19PM -0800, Peter Hurley wrote:
> The problem is you have postulated a very shallow recursion.
> This looks much worse if this happens 1000 times, and
> probably won't recover to output anything.
> 
> Additionally, what if the console_sem is simply corrupted?
> A livelock with no output ever is not very helpful.
> 
> As I wrote earlier, I don't think this is the way to fix
> recursion problems with printk() [by eliding output].

I think you are currently misunderstading about this patch. Or I'm
misunderstanding you.. The patch was changed in v4 so that it can print
a debug message even in the recursive cycle case, at the first time.

I also thought printing nothing in the case was not helpful at all which I
did in v1,2,3. But it's changed in v4, that is, this patch.

thanks,
byungchul

> 
> Rather, a way to effectively determine a recursion is in progress,
> and _at a minimum_ guaranteeing that the recursive output will
> eventually be output should be the goal.
> 
> Including dumb recursion like a console driver printing
> an error :/
> 
> Then, lockdep could remain enabled while calling console drivers.
> 
> Regards,
> Peter Hurley
> 
> >            sem->count--
> >           spin_unlock()   << unlock, return
> >        arch_spin_lock()   << got the lock, return
> >       sem->count--
> >       spin_unlock() << unlock, return
> >    arch_spin_lock() << got the lock, return
> >   sem->count--
> >   spin_unlock() << unlock, return
> > 
> > 
> > ...um
> > 
> > 
> >> But I found there's a possiblity in the debug code *itself* to cause a
> >> lockup.
> > 
> > please explain.
> > 
> > 	-ss
> > 

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-28 23:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-27 12:01 [PATCH v4] lib/spinlock_debug.c: prevent a recursive cycle in the debug code Byungchul Park
2016-01-27 22:49 ` Peter Hurley
2016-01-28  7:15   ` Byungchul Park
2016-01-29  8:19     ` Byungchul Park
2016-01-28  1:42 ` Byungchul Park
2016-01-28  2:37   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-28  4:36     ` byungchul.park
2016-01-28  6:05       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-28  8:13         ` Byungchul Park
2016-01-28 10:41           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-28 10:53             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-28 15:42               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-28 23:08                 ` Peter Hurley
2016-01-28 23:54                   ` Byungchul Park [this message]
2016-01-29  0:54                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-29  3:00                       ` Byungchul Park
2016-01-29  4:05                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-29 12:15                           ` Byungchul Park
2016-01-29  0:27                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-29  4:32                     ` Peter Hurley
2016-01-29  5:28                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-29  5:48                         ` Peter Hurley
2016-01-29  6:16                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-29  6:37                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-31 12:30                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-31 12:33                                 ` [PATCH 1/3] printk: introduce console_reset_on_panic() function Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-31 12:33                                   ` [PATCH 2/3] printk: introduce reset_console_drivers() Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-31 12:47                                     ` kbuild test robot
2016-01-31 12:33                                   ` [PATCH 3/3] spinlock_debug: panic on recursive lock spin_dump() Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-01 16:14                                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-02  7:59                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-31 12:42                                   ` [PATCH 1/3] printk: introduce console_reset_on_panic() function kbuild test robot
2016-01-29  6:54                     ` [PATCH v4] lib/spinlock_debug.c: prevent a recursive cycle in the debug code Byungchul Park
2016-01-29  7:13                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-01-29  8:13                         ` Byungchul Park

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