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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: riel@redhat.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	mingo@kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com, fweisbec@redhat.com,
	wanpeng.li@hotmail.com, efault@gmx.de, tglx@linutronix.de,
	rkrcmar@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] nohz,cputime: remove VTIME_GEN vtime irq time code
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 01:21:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160627232105.GA7582@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1466648751-7958-3-git-send-email-riel@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 10:25:48PM -0400, riel@redhat.com wrote:
> From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> 
> The CONFIG_VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING_GEN irq time tracking code does not
> appear to currently work right.
> 
> On CPUs that are nohz_full, people typically do not assign IRQs.

Right, but they can still fire. At least one tick per second, plus the
pinned timers, etc...

>
> On the housekeeping CPU (when a system is booted up with nohz_full),
> sampling should work ok to determine irq and softirq time use, but
> that only covers the housekeeping CPU itself, not the other
> non-nohz_full CPUs.

Hmm, every non-nohz_full CPUs, including the CPU 0, account the irqtime
the same way: through the tick (and therefore can't account much of it).

So I'm a bit confused by the above statements..

> 
> On CPUs that are nohz_idle (the typical way a distro kernel is
> booted), irq time is not accounted at all while the CPU is idle,
> due to the lack of timer ticks.

But as soon as a timer tick fires in idle or afterward, the pending
irqtime is accounted.

That said I don't see how it explains why we do the below:

> 
> Remove the VTIME_GEN vtime irq time code. The next patch will
> allow NO_HZ_FULL kernels to use the IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING code.

I don't get the reason why we are doing this. Now arguably the irqtime
accounting is probably not working as well as before since we switched to
jiffy clock. But I still see some hard irqs accounted when account_irq_exit()
is lucky enough to observe that jiffies changed since the beginning of
the interrupt.

So it's not entirely broken. I agree that we need to switch it to the
generic irqtime accounting code but breaking the code now to reactivate it
in a subsequent patch is prone to future bisection issues.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-27 23:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-23  2:25 [PATCH v2 0/5] sched,time: fix irq time accounting with nohz_idle riel
2016-06-23  2:25 ` [PATCH 1/5] sched,time: count actually elapsed irq & softirq time riel
2016-06-27 12:25   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-06-27 12:50     ` Rik van Riel
2016-06-28 20:56       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-06-23  2:25 ` [PATCH 2/5] nohz,cputime: remove VTIME_GEN vtime irq time code riel
2016-06-27 23:21   ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2016-06-27 23:31     ` Rik van Riel
2016-06-27 23:51       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-06-23  2:25 ` [PATCH 3/5] cputime: allow irq time accounting to be selected as an option riel
2016-06-26  3:03   ` kbuild test robot
2016-06-23  2:25 ` [PATCH 4/5] irqtime: add irq type parameter to irqtime_account_irq riel
2016-06-23  2:25 ` [PATCH 5/5] irqtime: drop local_irq_save/restore from irqtime_account_irq riel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-06-16 16:06 [PATCH 0/5] sched,time: fix irq time accounting with nohz_idle riel
2016-06-16 16:06 ` [PATCH 2/5] nohz,cputime: remove VTIME_GEN vtime irq time code riel
2016-06-08  2:29 [PATCH RFC 0/5] sched,time: make irq time accounting work for nohz_idle riel
2016-06-08  2:30 ` [PATCH 2/5] nohz,cputime: remove VTIME_GEN vtime irq time code riel

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