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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	mingo@kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com, fweisbec@redhat.com,
	wanpeng.li@hotmail.com, efault@gmx.de, tglx@linutronix.de,
	rkrcmar@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] nohz,cputime: remove VTIME_GEN vtime irq time code
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 01:51:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160627235153.GB7582@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1467070289.22723.22.camel@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 07:31:29PM -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Tue, 2016-06-28 at 01:21 +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 10:25:48PM -0400, riel@redhat.com wrote:
> > > 
> > > From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> > > 
> > > The CONFIG_VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING_GEN irq time tracking code does not
> > > appear to currently work right.
> > > 
> > > On CPUs that are nohz_full, people typically do not assign IRQs.
> > Right, but they can still fire. At least one tick per second, plus
> > the
> > pinned timers, etc...
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On the housekeeping CPU (when a system is booted up with
> > > nohz_full),
> > > sampling should work ok to determine irq and softirq time use, but
> > > that only covers the housekeeping CPU itself, not the other
> > > non-nohz_full CPUs.
> > Hmm, every non-nohz_full CPUs, including the CPU 0, account the
> > irqtime
> > the same way: through the tick (and therefore can't account much of
> > it).
> > 
> But it will be subtracted from the user time, rather
> than the idle time during which the irqs happened.
> 
> Furthermore, we might well have 100 jiffies worth of
> irq & softirq time on a CPU, and get just 1 jiffy
> of userspace time, on systems acting like routers.

Indeed.

> > > Remove the VTIME_GEN vtime irq time code. The next patch will
> > > allow NO_HZ_FULL kernels to use the IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING code.
> > I don't get the reason why we are doing this. Now arguably the
> > irqtime
> > accounting is probably not working as well as before since we
> > switched to
> > jiffy clock. But I still see some hard irqs accounted when
> > account_irq_exit()
> > is lucky enough to observe that jiffies changed since the beginning
> > of
> > the interrupt.
> > 
> > So it's not entirely broken. I agree that we need to switch it to the
> > generic irqtime accounting code but breaking the code now to
> > reactivate it
> > in a subsequent patch is prone to future bisection issues.
> 
> Want me to merge patches 2 & 3 into one, so we immediately
> start using the generic code and do not run into bisect
> issues?

Yeah that would be better.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-27 23:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-23  2:25 [PATCH v2 0/5] sched,time: fix irq time accounting with nohz_idle riel
2016-06-23  2:25 ` [PATCH 1/5] sched,time: count actually elapsed irq & softirq time riel
2016-06-27 12:25   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-06-27 12:50     ` Rik van Riel
2016-06-28 20:56       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-06-23  2:25 ` [PATCH 2/5] nohz,cputime: remove VTIME_GEN vtime irq time code riel
2016-06-27 23:21   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-06-27 23:31     ` Rik van Riel
2016-06-27 23:51       ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2016-06-23  2:25 ` [PATCH 3/5] cputime: allow irq time accounting to be selected as an option riel
2016-06-26  3:03   ` kbuild test robot
2016-06-23  2:25 ` [PATCH 4/5] irqtime: add irq type parameter to irqtime_account_irq riel
2016-06-23  2:25 ` [PATCH 5/5] irqtime: drop local_irq_save/restore from irqtime_account_irq riel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-06-16 16:06 [PATCH 0/5] sched,time: fix irq time accounting with nohz_idle riel
2016-06-16 16:06 ` [PATCH 2/5] nohz,cputime: remove VTIME_GEN vtime irq time code riel
2016-06-08  2:29 [PATCH RFC 0/5] sched,time: make irq time accounting work for nohz_idle riel
2016-06-08  2:30 ` [PATCH 2/5] nohz,cputime: remove VTIME_GEN vtime irq time code riel

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