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From: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	mingo@redhat.com, x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip v3 7/7] kprobes: Use synchronize_rcu_tasks() for optprobe with CONFIG_PREEMPT
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 23:01:58 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171004230158.44dc05a8c9f08e66e62a1fc2@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171003195722.69954d2c@gandalf.local.home>

On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 19:57:22 -0400
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:

> 
> Sorry for the late reply. Coming back from Kernel Recipes, I fell way
> behind in email.
> 
> On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 00:29:38 -0700
> Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > > > +	 * are done. Because optprobe may modify multiple instructions,
> > > > +	 * there is a chance that the Nth instruction is interrupted. In that
> > > > +	 * case, running interrupt can return to the Nth byte of jump
> > > > +	 * instruction. This can be avoided by waiting for returning of
> > > > +	 * such interrupts, since (until here) the first byte of the optimized
> > > > +	 * probe is already replaced with normal kprobe (sw breakpoint) and
> > > > +	 * all threads which reach to the probed address will hit it and
> > > > +	 * bypass the copied instructions (instead of executing the original.)
> > > > +	 * With CONFIG_PREEMPT, such interrupts can be preepmted. To wait
> > > > +	 * for such thread, we will use synchronize_rcu_tasks() which ensures
> > > > +	 * all preeempted tasks are scheduled normally (not preempted).
> > > > +	 * So we can ensure there is no threads preempted at probed address.  
> > > 
> > > What? Interrupts cannot be preempted.  
> > 
> > Steve, could you correct me if I'm wrong. I thought if the kernel is
> > compiled with CONFIG_PREEMPT=y, even in the kernel, it can be preempted
> > suddenly. It means timer interrupt occurs at kernel path and it yield
> > to new task (=preempt.) Do I miss something?
> 
> The above sounds correct. I believe Ingo was pointing out the line that
> states "With CONFIG_PREEMPT, such interrupts can be preempted", which
> is not true. I think you meant that interrupts can preempt the kernel
> and cause it to schedule out. The line above sounds like you meant the
> interrupt was preempted, which can't happen.

Ah, now I got it. Yes, interrupt itself is not preempted...

Thank you!

> 
> -- Steve


-- 
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-04 14:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-19  9:58 [PATCH -tip v3 0/7] kprobes/x86: Preempt related enhancements Masami Hiramatsu
2017-09-19  9:59 ` [PATCH -tip v3 1/7] kprobes: Improve smoke test to check preemptible Masami Hiramatsu
2017-09-28 10:52   ` [tip:perf/core] kprobes: Improve smoke test to check preemptibility tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2017-09-19  9:59 ` [PATCH -tip v3 2/7] kprobes/x86: Move get_kprobe_ctlblk in irq-disabled block Masami Hiramatsu
2017-09-28 10:52   ` [tip:perf/core] kprobes/x86: Move the get_kprobe_ctlblk() into " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2017-09-19 10:00 ` [PATCH -tip v3 3/7] kprobes: Warn if optprobe handler tries to change execution path Masami Hiramatsu
2017-09-28 10:53   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-10 17:02   ` [PATCH -tip v3 3/7] " Naveen N. Rao
2017-10-12  5:04     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-17  8:05       ` Naveen N. Rao
2017-09-19 10:00 ` [PATCH -tip v3 4/7] kprobes/x86: Disable preempt in optprobe Masami Hiramatsu
2017-09-28 10:53   ` [tip:perf/core] kprobes/x86: Disable preemption " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2017-09-19 10:01 ` [PATCH -tip v3 5/7] kprobes/x86: Disable preempt ftrace-based jprobe Masami Hiramatsu
2017-09-28 10:54   ` [tip:perf/core] kprobes/x86: Disable preemption in ftrace-based jprobes tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2017-09-19 10:02 ` [PATCH -tip v3 6/7] kprobes/x86: Remove disable_irq from ftrace-based/optimized kprobe Masami Hiramatsu
2017-09-28  7:25   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-09-29  6:48     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-09-28 10:54   ` [tip:perf/core] kprobes/x86: Remove IRQ disabling from ftrace-based/optimized kprobes tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2017-09-19 10:03 ` [PATCH -tip v3 7/7] kprobes: Use synchronize_rcu_tasks() for optprobe with CONFIG_PREEMPT Masami Hiramatsu
2017-09-28  7:22   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-09-29  7:29     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-09-29  7:37       ` Ingo Molnar
2017-09-29 14:44         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-09-29 17:45           ` Ingo Molnar
2017-09-30  5:12             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-03 23:57       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-04 14:01         ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2017-09-21 22:00 ` [PATCH -tip v3 0/7] kprobes/x86: Preempt related enhancements Alexei Starovoitov

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