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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Torsten Duwe <duwe@lst.de>
Cc: Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>, Joao Moreira <jmoreira@suse.de>,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	pmladek@suse.com, jikos@suse.cz, nstange@suse.de,
	jroedel@suse.de, matz@suse.de, khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru,
	jeyu@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] livepatch: klp-convert tool
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 09:20:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171020142009.hqnfuklf3l22noz2@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171020134412.GA28905@lst.de>

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 03:44:12PM +0200, Torsten Duwe wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 08:24:32AM -0500, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 02:44:32PM +0200, Torsten Duwe wrote:
> > > I have a bad feeling about the IPA stuff in general. An obj-based approach
> > > is cool in a way that it still works, and is sure to work, if the IPA
> > > assumptions that led to the optimisations still hold, but as soon as they
> > > break, you're screwed big time.
> > 
> > Huh?  The obj-based approach (e.g., kpatch, bin-diff) inherently detects
> > such changes.  Or am I misunderstanding?  If so, please elaborate.
> 
> If e.g. the old callee does not use a caller-saved reg, neither does the new
> code, there is no reason to actually save it. IPA will detect this and spare
> the reg save/restore. If now by any coincidence the new function needs that
> register, what can you do? Patch all callers as well? You'll likely end up
> with a far-too-big live patch or by coding something in assembler :-(

Yes, you do have to patch the caller in that case.  But kpatch-build
detects that the caller changed as well, so both functions get patched
and it's not a problem.

And I don't remember ever seeing more than one caller for such a case.
At least it's never been a problem so far.

-- 
Josh

      reply	other threads:[~2017-10-20 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-29 19:01 [PATCH 0/8] livepatch: klp-convert tool Joao Moreira
2017-08-29 19:01 ` [PATCH 1/8] livepatch: Create and include UAPI headers Joao Moreira
2017-08-29 19:01 ` [PATCH 2/8] kbuild: Support for Symbols.list creation Joao Moreira
2017-08-31 15:24   ` Joe Lawrence
2017-08-31 17:34     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-09-04  7:23     ` Joao Moreira
2017-08-29 19:01 ` [PATCH 3/8] livepatch: Add klp-convert tool Joao Moreira
2017-08-30 20:03   ` Joao Moreira
2017-08-29 19:01 ` [PATCH 4/8] livepatch: Add klp-convert annotation helpers Joao Moreira
2017-08-29 19:01 ` [PATCH 5/8] modpost: Integrate klp-convert Joao Moreira
2017-08-29 19:01 ` [PATCH 6/8] modpost: Add modinfo flag to livepatch modules Joao Moreira
2017-08-29 19:01 ` [PATCH 7/8] livepatch: Add sample livepatch module Joao Moreira
2017-08-29 19:01 ` [PATCH 8/8] documentation: Update on livepatch elf format Joao Moreira
2017-08-30 18:00 ` [PATCH 0/8] livepatch: klp-convert tool Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-10 14:17   ` Miroslav Benes
2017-10-11  2:46     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-11 12:42       ` Joao Moreira
2017-10-19 13:01         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-19 13:24           ` Miroslav Benes
2017-10-19 14:03             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-19 14:27               ` Miroslav Benes
2017-10-19 15:15                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-19 16:00                   ` Miroslav Benes
2017-10-19 16:20                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-20  8:51                       ` Miroslav Benes
2017-10-20 12:03                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-20 12:44                     ` Torsten Duwe
2017-10-20 13:24                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-10-20 13:39                         ` Miroslav Benes
2017-10-20 13:44                         ` Torsten Duwe
2017-10-20 14:20                           ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]

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