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From: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>, Todd Kjos <tkjos@android.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
	Steve Muckle <smuckle@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/4] sched/fair: add util_est on top of PELT
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 15:24:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180307152458.GE2211@e110439-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180307122437.GM25181@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 07-Mar 13:24, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 11:31:49AM +0000, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > > It appears to me this isn't a stable situation and completely relies on
> > > the !nr_running case to recalibrate. If we ensure that doesn't happen
> > > for a significant while the sum can run-away, right?
> > 
> > By away you mean go over 1024 or overflow the unsigned int storage?
> 
> the later, I think you can make it arbitrarily large. Have a busy task
> on CPU0, this ensure !nr_running never happens.
> 
> Start a busy task on CPU1, wait for it to hit u=1, then migrate it to
> CPU0, 

At this point util_est(CPU0) = 2048, which is:

   +1024 for the busy running task
         assuming it has been enqueued with the utilization since the beginning
   +1024 for the newly migrated task from CPU1
         which is enqueued with the value he reached at dequeued time
         from CPU1

> then wait for it to hit u=.5 then kill it,

... but when we kill it, the task is dequeued, and thus we remove
1024.

Maybe that's the tricky bit: we remove the value we enqueued, _not_
the current util_avg. Notice we use _task_util_est(p)... with the
leading "_".

> this effectively adds
> .5 to the enqueued value, repeat indefinitely.

Thus this should not happen.

Basically, the RQ's util_est is the sum of the RUNNABLE tasks's
util_est at their enqueue time... which has been update at their last
dequeue time, hence the usage of name "dequeued" for both tasks and
rqs.

Does it make sense now?

-- 
#include <best/regards.h>

Patrick Bellasi

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-07 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-22 17:01 [PATCH v5 0/4] Utilization estimation (util_est) for FAIR tasks Patrick Bellasi
2018-02-22 17:01 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] sched/fair: add util_est on top of PELT Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-01 17:42   ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-06 18:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-07 12:32     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-06 18:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-07  9:39     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-07 15:37       ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-07 11:31     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-07 12:24       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-07 15:24         ` Patrick Bellasi [this message]
2018-03-07 17:35           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-06 19:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-07 11:47     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-07 12:26       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-07 15:16         ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-02-22 17:01 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] sched/fair: use util_est in LB and WU paths Patrick Bellasi
2018-02-22 17:01 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] sched/cpufreq_schedutil: use util_est for OPP selection Patrick Bellasi
2018-02-26  4:04   ` Viresh Kumar
2018-03-07 10:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-22 17:01 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] sched/fair: update util_est only on util_avg updates Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-01 17:46   ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-07 10:38   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-08  9:15     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-08  9:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-08 10:37     ` Patrick Bellasi

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