From: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
To: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Abel Wu <wuyun.abel@bytedance.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@intel.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2][RFC] sched/fair: Change SIS_PROP to search idle CPU based on sum of util_avg
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 00:13:11 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220316161311.GA41632@chenyu5-mobl1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87541edf7b46c1475f73cf464a9edca932f65da5.camel@linux.intel.com>
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 10:34:30AM -0700, Tim Chen wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-03-14 at 20:56 +0800, Chen Yu wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > So nr_scan will probably be updated at llc-domain-lb-interval, which
> > > is llc_size milliseconds. Since load can be varied a lot during such
> > > a period, would this brought accuracy issues?
> > >
> > I agree there might be delay in reflecting the latest utilization.
> > The sum_util calculated by periodic load balance after 112ms would be
> > decay to about 0.5 * 0.5 * 0.5 * 0.7 = 8.75%.
> > But consider that this is a server platform, I have an impression that
> > the CPU utilization jitter during a small period of time is not a regular
> > scenario? It seems to be a trade-off. Checking the util_avg in newidle
> > load balance path would be more frequent, but it also brings overhead -
> > multiple CPUs write/read the per-LLC shared variable and introduces cache
> > false sharing. But to make this more robust, maybe we can add time interval
> > control in newidle load balance too.
> >
> >
>
> Also the idea is we allow ourselves to be non-optimal in terms of
> scheduling for the short term variations. But we want to make sure that if
> there's a long term trend in the load behavior, the scheduler should
> adjust for that. I think if you see high utilization and CPUs are
> all close to fully busy for quite a while, that is a long term trend
> that overwhelms any short load jitters.
>
Agree. From long term trend, the scheduler should approach an optimization
status.
thanks,
Chenyu
> Tim
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-16 16:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-10 0:52 [PATCH v2][RFC] sched/fair: Change SIS_PROP to search idle CPU based on sum of util_avg Chen Yu
2022-03-14 4:53 ` Abel Wu
2022-03-14 12:56 ` Chen Yu
2022-03-14 17:34 ` Tim Chen
2022-03-16 16:13 ` Chen Yu [this message]
2022-03-15 11:37 ` K Prateek Nayak
2022-03-16 11:54 ` Chen Yu
2022-03-17 10:39 ` K Prateek Nayak
2022-04-02 14:35 ` K Prateek Nayak
2022-04-09 15:15 ` Chen Yu
2022-03-17 17:39 ` Yicong Yang
2022-03-18 3:43 ` Chen Yu
2022-04-02 10:11 ` Yicong Yang
2022-04-09 15:09 ` Chen Yu
2022-04-11 8:04 ` Yicong Yang
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