* [PATCH] lib/string_helpers: rework overflow-dependent code
@ 2024-08-08 21:43 Justin Stitt
2024-08-08 22:07 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-08-12 18:43 ` Kees Cook
0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Justin Stitt @ 2024-08-08 21:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kees Cook, Andy Shevchenko, Andrew Morton
Cc: linux-kernel, linux-hardening, Justin Stitt
When @size is 0, the desired behavior is to allow unlimited bytes to be
parsed. Currently, this relies on some intentional arithmetic overflow
where --size gives us SIZE_MAX when size is 0.
Explicitly spell out the desired behavior without relying on intentional
overflow/underflow.
Signed-off-by: Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>
---
lib/string_helpers.c | 3 +++
1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
diff --git a/lib/string_helpers.c b/lib/string_helpers.c
index 69ba49b853c7..4f887aa62fa0 100644
--- a/lib/string_helpers.c
+++ b/lib/string_helpers.c
@@ -321,6 +321,9 @@ int string_unescape(char *src, char *dst, size_t size, unsigned int flags)
{
char *out = dst;
+ if (!size)
+ size = SIZE_MAX;
+
while (*src && --size) {
if (src[0] == '\\' && src[1] != '\0' && size > 1) {
src++;
---
base-commit: ee9a43b7cfe2d8a3520335fea7d8ce71b8cabd9d
change-id: 20240808-b4-string_helpers_caa133-53effde85a18
Best regards,
--
Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>
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* Re: [PATCH] lib/string_helpers: rework overflow-dependent code
2024-08-08 21:43 [PATCH] lib/string_helpers: rework overflow-dependent code Justin Stitt
@ 2024-08-08 22:07 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-08-08 23:11 ` Kees Cook
2024-08-12 18:43 ` Kees Cook
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Andy Shevchenko @ 2024-08-08 22:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Justin Stitt
Cc: Kees Cook, Andy Shevchenko, Andrew Morton, linux-kernel,
linux-hardening
On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 12:44 AM Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com> wrote:
>
> When @size is 0, the desired behavior is to allow unlimited bytes to be
> parsed. Currently, this relies on some intentional arithmetic overflow
> where --size gives us SIZE_MAX when size is 0.
>
> Explicitly spell out the desired behavior without relying on intentional
> overflow/underflow.
Hmm... but why? Overflow for the _unsigned_ types is okay. No?
--
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko
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* Re: [PATCH] lib/string_helpers: rework overflow-dependent code
2024-08-08 22:07 ` Andy Shevchenko
@ 2024-08-08 23:11 ` Kees Cook
2024-08-09 11:07 ` Andy Shevchenko
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Kees Cook @ 2024-08-08 23:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andy Shevchenko
Cc: Justin Stitt, Andy Shevchenko, Andrew Morton, linux-kernel,
linux-hardening
On Fri, Aug 09, 2024 at 01:07:21AM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 12:44 AM Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > When @size is 0, the desired behavior is to allow unlimited bytes to be
> > parsed. Currently, this relies on some intentional arithmetic overflow
> > where --size gives us SIZE_MAX when size is 0.
> >
> > Explicitly spell out the desired behavior without relying on intentional
> > overflow/underflow.
>
> Hmm... but why? Overflow for the _unsigned_ types is okay. No?
Yes, it's well defined, but in trying to find a place to start making a
meaningful impact on unexpected wrap-around, after discussions with
Linus and Peter Zijlstra, we're going taking a stab at defining size_t
as not expecting to wrap. Justin has been collecting false positive
fixes while working on the compiler side of this, and I had asked him to
send this one now since I think it additionally helps with readability.
--
Kees Cook
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* Re: [PATCH] lib/string_helpers: rework overflow-dependent code
2024-08-08 23:11 ` Kees Cook
@ 2024-08-09 11:07 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-08-09 23:53 ` Justin Stitt
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Andy Shevchenko @ 2024-08-09 11:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kees Cook
Cc: Justin Stitt, Andy Shevchenko, Andrew Morton, linux-kernel,
linux-hardening
On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 2:11 AM Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 09, 2024 at 01:07:21AM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 12:44 AM Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > When @size is 0, the desired behavior is to allow unlimited bytes to be
> > > parsed. Currently, this relies on some intentional arithmetic overflow
> > > where --size gives us SIZE_MAX when size is 0.
> > >
> > > Explicitly spell out the desired behavior without relying on intentional
> > > overflow/underflow.
> >
> > Hmm... but why? Overflow for the _unsigned_ types is okay. No?
>
> Yes, it's well defined, but in trying to find a place to start making a
> meaningful impact on unexpected wrap-around, after discussions with
> Linus and Peter Zijlstra, we're going taking a stab at defining size_t
> as not expecting to wrap. Justin has been collecting false positive
> fixes while working on the compiler side of this, and I had asked him to
> send this one now since I think it additionally helps with readability.
Okay, but the patch has an off-by-one error (which has no impact on
the behavior as it's close to unrealistic to have the SIZE_MAX array).
I prefer that patch can be reconsidered to keep original behaviour,
otherwise it might be not so clear why 0 is SIZE_MAX - 1 in _this_
case.
--
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko
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* Re: [PATCH] lib/string_helpers: rework overflow-dependent code
2024-08-09 11:07 ` Andy Shevchenko
@ 2024-08-09 23:53 ` Justin Stitt
2024-08-10 15:39 ` Andy Shevchenko
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Justin Stitt @ 2024-08-09 23:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andy Shevchenko
Cc: Kees Cook, Andy Shevchenko, Andrew Morton, linux-kernel,
linux-hardening
On Fri, Aug 09, 2024 at 02:07:57PM GMT, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 2:11 AM Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 09, 2024 at 01:07:21AM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 12:44 AM Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > When @size is 0, the desired behavior is to allow unlimited bytes to be
> > > > parsed. Currently, this relies on some intentional arithmetic overflow
> > > > where --size gives us SIZE_MAX when size is 0.
> > > >
> > > > Explicitly spell out the desired behavior without relying on intentional
> > > > overflow/underflow.
> > >
> > > Hmm... but why? Overflow for the _unsigned_ types is okay. No?
> >
> > Yes, it's well defined, but in trying to find a place to start making a
> > meaningful impact on unexpected wrap-around, after discussions with
> > Linus and Peter Zijlstra, we're going taking a stab at defining size_t
> > as not expecting to wrap. Justin has been collecting false positive
> > fixes while working on the compiler side of this, and I had asked him to
> > send this one now since I think it additionally helps with readability.
>
> Okay, but the patch has an off-by-one error (which has no impact on
> the behavior as it's close to unrealistic to have the SIZE_MAX array).
> I prefer that patch can be reconsidered to keep original behaviour,
> otherwise it might be not so clear why 0 is SIZE_MAX - 1 in _this_
> case.
Right, it is technically different but still functionally provides the
"unlimited" behavior.
But, we could do this too:
diff --git a/lib/string_helpers.c b/lib/string_helpers.c
index 69ba49b853c7..0f76b5288833 100644
--- a/lib/string_helpers.c
+++ b/lib/string_helpers.c
@@ -320,11 +320,13 @@ static bool unescape_special(char **src, char **dst)
int string_unescape(char *src, char *dst, size_t size, unsigned int flags)
{
char *out = dst;
+ bool unlimited = !size;
- while (*src && --size) {
- if (src[0] == '\\' && src[1] != '\0' && size > 1) {
+ while (*src && (unlimited || --size)) {
+ if (src[0] == '\\' && src[1] != '\0' &&
+ (unlimited || size > 1)) {
src++;
- size--;
+ size -= !unlimited;
if (flags & UNESCAPE_SPACE &&
unescape_space(&src, &out))
Really, I am fine with either.
Thanks
Justin
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* Re: [PATCH] lib/string_helpers: rework overflow-dependent code
2024-08-09 23:53 ` Justin Stitt
@ 2024-08-10 15:39 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-08-10 15:41 ` Andy Shevchenko
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Andy Shevchenko @ 2024-08-10 15:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Justin Stitt
Cc: Kees Cook, Andy Shevchenko, Andrew Morton, linux-kernel,
linux-hardening
On Sat, Aug 10, 2024 at 2:53 AM Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 09, 2024 at 02:07:57PM GMT, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 2:11 AM Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org> wrote:
...
> > Okay, but the patch has an off-by-one error (which has no impact on
> > the behavior as it's close to unrealistic to have the SIZE_MAX array).
> > I prefer that patch can be reconsidered to keep original behaviour,
> > otherwise it might be not so clear why 0 is SIZE_MAX - 1 in _this_
> > case.
>
> Right, it is technically different but still functionally provides the
> "unlimited" behavior.
>
> But, we could do this too:
> int string_unescape(char *src, char *dst, size_t size, unsigned int flags)
> {
> char *out = dst;
> + bool unlimited = !size;
>
> - while (*src && --size) {
> - if (src[0] == '\\' && src[1] != '\0' && size > 1) {
> + while (*src && (unlimited || --size)) {
> + if (src[0] == '\\' && src[1] != '\0' &&
> + (unlimited || size > 1)) {
> src++;
> - size--;
> + size -= !unlimited;
>
> if (flags & UNESCAPE_SPACE &&
> unescape_space(&src, &out))
>
> Really, I am fine with either.
This one is worse, I think.
Let's take time and not hurry up and think more about better approaches.
--
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko
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* Re: [PATCH] lib/string_helpers: rework overflow-dependent code
2024-08-10 15:39 ` Andy Shevchenko
@ 2024-08-10 15:41 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-08-12 18:20 ` Justin Stitt
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Andy Shevchenko @ 2024-08-10 15:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Justin Stitt
Cc: Kees Cook, Andy Shevchenko, Andrew Morton, linux-kernel,
linux-hardening
On Sat, Aug 10, 2024 at 6:39 PM Andy Shevchenko
<andy.shevchenko@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 10, 2024 at 2:53 AM Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 09, 2024 at 02:07:57PM GMT, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
...
> > But, we could do this too:
> > - while (*src && --size) {
> > - if (src[0] == '\\' && src[1] != '\0' && size > 1) {
> This one is worse, I think.
> Let's take time and not hurry up and think more about better approaches.
Btw, have you played with the "do {} while (size);" approach?
--
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko
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* Re: [PATCH] lib/string_helpers: rework overflow-dependent code
2024-08-10 15:41 ` Andy Shevchenko
@ 2024-08-12 18:20 ` Justin Stitt
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Justin Stitt @ 2024-08-12 18:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andy Shevchenko
Cc: Kees Cook, Andy Shevchenko, Andrew Morton, linux-kernel,
linux-hardening
On Sat, Aug 10, 2024 at 8:42 AM Andy Shevchenko
<andy.shevchenko@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Aug 10, 2024 at 6:39 PM Andy Shevchenko
> <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 10, 2024 at 2:53 AM Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 09, 2024 at 02:07:57PM GMT, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > > But, we could do this too:
>
> > > - while (*src && --size) {
> > > - if (src[0] == '\\' && src[1] != '\0' && size > 1) {
>
> > This one is worse, I think.
> > Let's take time and not hurry up and think more about better approaches.
>
> Btw, have you played with the "do {} while (size);" approach?
Nope. Although, lots of ideas can work here. We can reorder the logic
any which way, really.
I am happy to send a patch following any idea -- so long as the
overflow-dependent code is gone :)
>
> --
> With Best Regards,
> Andy Shevchenko
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* Re: [PATCH] lib/string_helpers: rework overflow-dependent code
2024-08-08 21:43 [PATCH] lib/string_helpers: rework overflow-dependent code Justin Stitt
2024-08-08 22:07 ` Andy Shevchenko
@ 2024-08-12 18:43 ` Kees Cook
2024-08-12 20:05 ` Justin Stitt
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Kees Cook @ 2024-08-12 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andy Shevchenko, Andrew Morton, Justin Stitt
Cc: Kees Cook, linux-kernel, linux-hardening
On Thu, 08 Aug 2024 14:43:56 -0700, Justin Stitt wrote:
> When @size is 0, the desired behavior is to allow unlimited bytes to be
> parsed. Currently, this relies on some intentional arithmetic overflow
> where --size gives us SIZE_MAX when size is 0.
>
> Explicitly spell out the desired behavior without relying on intentional
> overflow/underflow.
>
> [...]
Since we can't have allocations larger than INT_MAX, SIZE_MAX is
sufficiently large for this use-case, and the "off by one" introduce
here isn't meaningful. I prefer the improved readability and lack of
wrapping pre-decrement.
Applied to for-next/hardening, thanks!
[1/1] lib/string_helpers: rework overflow-dependent code
https://git.kernel.org/kees/c/5d6b91b74ccd
Take care,
--
Kees Cook
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* Re: [PATCH] lib/string_helpers: rework overflow-dependent code
2024-08-12 18:43 ` Kees Cook
@ 2024-08-12 20:05 ` Justin Stitt
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Justin Stitt @ 2024-08-12 20:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kees Cook; +Cc: Andy Shevchenko, Andrew Morton, linux-kernel, linux-hardening
On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 11:44 AM Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 08 Aug 2024 14:43:56 -0700, Justin Stitt wrote:
> > When @size is 0, the desired behavior is to allow unlimited bytes to be
> > parsed. Currently, this relies on some intentional arithmetic overflow
> > where --size gives us SIZE_MAX when size is 0.
> >
> > Explicitly spell out the desired behavior without relying on intentional
> > overflow/underflow.
> >
> > [...]
>
> Since we can't have allocations larger than INT_MAX, SIZE_MAX is
> sufficiently large for this use-case, and the "off by one" introduce
> here isn't meaningful. I prefer the improved readability and lack of
> wrapping pre-decrement.
Great! Thanks.
>
> Applied to for-next/hardening, thanks!
>
> [1/1] lib/string_helpers: rework overflow-dependent code
> https://git.kernel.org/kees/c/5d6b91b74ccd
>
> Take care,
>
> --
> Kees Cook
>
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