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From: Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org>
To: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@redhat.com>,
	Simona Vetter <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	Karol Herbst <kherbst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] MAINTAINERS: Remove myself
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 00:24:28 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250219002428.1c493839dd402181bf888065@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z7MrLUlSzS_I3YPK@cassiopeiae>

On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 13:27:25 +0100
Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 08:37:53AM +0100, Karol Herbst wrote:
> > I was pondering with myself for a while if I should just make it official
> > that I'm not really involved in the kernel community anymore, neither as a
> > reviewer, nor as a maintainer.
> > 
> > Most of the time I simply excused myself with "if something urgent comes
> > up, I can chime in and help out". Lyude and Danilo are doing a wonderful
> > job and I've put all my trust into them.
> > 
> > However, there is one thing I can't stand and it's hurting me the most.
> > I'm convinced, no, my core believe is, that inclusivity and respect,
> > working with others as equals, no power plays involved, is how we should
> > work together within the Free and Open Source community.
> > 
> > I can understand maintainers needing to learn, being concerned on
> > technical points. Everybody deserves the time to understand and learn. It
> > is my true belief that most people are capable of change eventually. I
> > truly believe this community can change from within, however this doesn't
> > mean it's going to be a smooth process.
> > 
> > The moment I made up my mind about this was reading the following words
> > written by a maintainer within the kernel community:
> > 
> > 	"we are the thin blue line"
> > 
> > This isn't okay. This isn't creating an inclusive environment. This isn't
> > okay with the current political situation especially in the US. A
> > maintainer speaking those words can't be kept. No matter how important
> > or critical or relevant they are. They need to be removed until they
> > learn. Learn what those words mean for a lot of marginalized people. Learn
> > about what horrors it evokes in their minds.
> > 
> > I can't in good faith remain to be part of a project and its community
> > where those words are tolerated. Those words are not technical, they are
> > a political statement. Even if unintentionally, such words carry power,
> > they carry meanings one needs to be aware of. They do cause an immense
> > amount of harm.
> > 
> > I wish the best of luck for everybody to continue to try to work from
> > within. You got my full support and I won't hold it against anybody trying
> > to improve the community, it's a thankless job, it's a lot of work. People
> > will continue to burn out.
> > 
> > I got burned out enough by myself caring about the bits I maintained, but
> > eventually I had to realize my limits. The obligation I felt was eating me
> > from inside. It stopped being fun at some point and I reached a point
> > where I simply couldn't continue the work I was so motivated doing as I've
> > did in the early days.
> > 
> > Please respect my wishes and put this statement as is into the tree.
> > Leaving anything out destroys its entire meaning.
> > 
> > Respectfully
> > 
> > Karol
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Karol Herbst <kherbst@redhat.com>
> 
> @Steven, @Masami: Can I get an ACK for taking this through the drm-misc tree?
> 
> (Not cutting any context, since you have not been copied on this one.)

OK,

Acked-by: Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org>

Thank you,

> 
> - Danilo
> 
> > ---
> >  MAINTAINERS | 2 --
> >  1 file changed, 2 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
> > index 25c86f47353de..ca31e57fa203c 100644
> > --- a/MAINTAINERS
> > +++ b/MAINTAINERS
> > @@ -7431,7 +7431,6 @@ F:	Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/panel/novatek,nt36672a.yaml
> >  F:	drivers/gpu/drm/panel/panel-novatek-nt36672a.c
> >  
> >  DRM DRIVER FOR NVIDIA GEFORCE/QUADRO GPUS
> > -M:	Karol Herbst <kherbst@redhat.com>
> >  M:	Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com>
> >  M:	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
> >  L:	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> > @@ -24062,7 +24061,6 @@ F:	tools/testing/selftests/ftrace/
> >  TRACING MMIO ACCESSES (MMIOTRACE)
> >  M:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
> >  M:	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
> > -R:	Karol Herbst <karolherbst@gmail.com>
> >  R:	Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
> >  L:	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> >  L:	nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org
> > -- 
> > 2.48.1
> > 


-- 
Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-02-18 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-15  7:37 [PATCH 0/1] Me stepping down as a nouveau kernel maintainer Karol Herbst
2025-02-15  7:37 ` [PATCH 1/1] MAINTAINERS: Remove myself Karol Herbst
2025-02-17 12:27   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-02-17 17:44     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-18 15:24     ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2025-02-19 13:46   ` Danilo Krummrich

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