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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Uros Bizjak <ubizjak@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 14/20] x86/barrier: Use alternative_io() in 32-bit barrier functions
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 22:06:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250318220605.6ac40f6d@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <rvrdr6yefc6fbbsuhamf7ri4nlrxvmafcqpmgg6duwpj2blhad@a2wrcdspyvip>

On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 17:11:58 -0700
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 08:04:32PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> > Is the ARG() necessary just to handle the comma separated lists?
> > If so is it only actually needed if there is more than one item?  
> 
> No, but my preference is to require the use of the macro even for single
> constraints as it helps visually separate the lists.
> 
> > Another option is to just require () and add the ARG in the expansion.
> > So with:
> > #define __asm_call(qual, alt, out, in, clobber) \
> > 	asm("zzz", ARG out, ARG in, ARG clobber)
> > 
> > __asm_call(qual, ALT(), \
> > 		([var] "+m" (__my_cpu_var(_var)), "+a" (old__.low),	\
> > 		    "+d" (old__.high)),					\
> > 		("b" (new__.low), "c" (new__.high), "S" (&(_var))),	\
> > 		("memory"));
> > 
> > would get expanded the same as the line below.  
> 
> Interesting idea, though I still prefer the self-documenting ASM_OUTPUT
> / ASM_INPUT / ASM_CLOBBER macros which are self-documenting and make it
> easier to read and visually distinguish the constraint lists.

Except that non of this really makes it easier to get out/in in the correct
order or to use the right constraints.
So are you just adding 'syntactic sugar' for no real gain?

Looking back at one of the changes:
-#define mb() asm volatile(ALTERNATIVE("lock addl $0,-4(%%esp)", "mfence", \
-				      X86_FEATURE_XMM2) ::: "memory", "cc")
+#define mb() alternative_io("lock addl $0,-4(%%esp)",			\
+			    "mfence", X86_FEATURE_XMM2,			\
+			    ARG(),					\
+			    ARG(),					\
+			    ARG("memory", "cc")) 

is it really an improvement?

	David

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-18 22:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-14 21:41 [PATCH 00/20] x86: Cleanup alternative_io() and friends, prep for asm_call() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-14 21:41 ` [PATCH 01/20] x86/cpu: Use named asm operands in prefetch[w]() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-14 21:41 ` [PATCH 02/20] x86/apic: Use named asm operands in native_apic_mem_write() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-14 21:41 ` [PATCH 03/20] x86/mm: Use named asm operands in task_size_max() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-14 21:41 ` [PATCH 04/20] x86/cpu: Use named asm operands in clflushopt() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-14 23:46   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-15  0:07     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-15  8:42       ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-15  9:25         ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-14 21:41 ` [PATCH 05/20] x86/asm: Always use flag output operands Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-14 21:41 ` [PATCH 06/20] x86/asm: Remove CC_SET() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-15  9:25   ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-14 21:41 ` [PATCH 07/20] x86/alternative: Remove operand numbering restrictions Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-14 21:41 ` [PATCH 08/20] x86/asm: Replace ASM_{OUTPUT,INPUT}() with ARG() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-14 21:41 ` [PATCH 09/20] x86/alternative: Simplify alternative_io() interface Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-14 21:41 ` [PATCH 10/20] x86/alternative: Add alternative_2_io() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-14 21:41 ` [PATCH 11/20] x86/alternative: Make alternative() a wrapper around alternative_io() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-14 21:41 ` [PATCH 12/20] x86/cpu: Use alternative_io() in prefetch[w]() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-14 21:41 ` [PATCH 13/20] x86/alternative: Remove alternative_input() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-14 21:41 ` [PATCH 14/20] x86/barrier: Use alternative_io() in 32-bit barrier functions Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-14 23:49   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-14 23:54     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-15  0:09       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-15  0:16         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-15  8:47           ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-15  0:05     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-15  9:14       ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-17 20:04       ` David Laight
2025-03-18  0:11         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-18 22:06           ` David Laight [this message]
2025-03-18 22:29             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-15  8:52     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-14 21:41 ` [PATCH 15/20] x86/cpu/amd: Use named asm operands in asm_clear_divider() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-15  9:01   ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-15 10:00     ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-14 21:41 ` [PATCH 16/20] x86/cpu: Use alternative_io() in amd_clear_divider() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-15  9:03   ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-14 21:41 ` [PATCH 17/20] x86/smap: Use named asm operands in smap_{save,restore}() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-14 22:51   ` Andrew Cooper
2025-03-14 23:56     ` Andrew Cooper
2025-03-14 21:41 ` [PATCH 18/20] x86/smap: Use alternative_io() " Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-15  9:09   ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-14 21:41 ` [PATCH 19/20] x86/uaccess: Use alternative_io() in __untagged_addr() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-15  9:12   ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-14 21:41 ` [PATCH 20/20] x86/msr: Use alternative_2_io() in rdtsc_ordered() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-14 22:25 ` [PATCH 00/20] x86: Cleanup alternative_io() and friends, prep for asm_call() Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-15  9:52   ` Uros Bizjak

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