From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, kees@kernel.org, alyssa.milburn@intel.com,
scott.d.constable@intel.com, joao@overdrivepizza.com,
andrew.cooper3@citrix.com, samitolvanen@google.com,
nathan@kernel.org, alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com,
mhiramat@kernel.org, ojeda@kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] x86,ibt: Use UDB instead of 0xEA
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 09:49:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250815074939.GA3419281@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2c121572-8fde-4288-80ca-ab79f2b22cce@zytor.com>
On Thu, Aug 14, 2025 at 06:27:44PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 2025-08-14 04:17, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > A while ago FineIBT started using the instruction 0xEA to generate #UD.
> > All existing parts will generate #UD in 64bit mode on that instruction.
> >
> > However; Intel/AMD have not blessed using this instruction, it is on
> > their 'reserved' list for future use.
> >
> > Peter Anvin worked the committees and got use of 0xD6 blessed, and it
> > will be called UDB (per the next SDM or so).
> >
> > Reworking the FineIBT code to use UDB wasn't entirely trivial, and I've
> > had to switch the hash register to EAX in order to free up some bytes.
> >
> > Per the x86_64 ABI, EAX is used to pass the number of vector registers
> > for varargs -- something that should not happen in the kernel. More so,
> > we build with -mskip-rax-setup, which should leave EAX completely unused
> > in the calling convention.
> >
> > The code boots and passes the LKDTM CFI_FORWARD_PROTO test for various
> > combinations (non exhaustive so far).
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@infradead.org>
>
> Looks good to me (and using %eax will save one byte per call site as
> well), but as per our IRC discussion, *my understanding* is that the
> best possible performance (least branch predictor impact across
> implementations) is to use a forward branch with a 2E prefix (jcc,pn in
> GAS syntax) rather than a reverse branch, if space allows.
Oh right. I did see that comment on IRC and them promptly forgot about
it again :/ I'll have a poke. Scott, do you agree? You being responsible
for the backward jump and such.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-15 7:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-14 11:17 [RFC][PATCH] x86,ibt: Use UDB instead of 0xEA Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-14 11:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-14 19:40 ` Nathan Chancellor
2025-08-15 1:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-08-15 7:49 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-08-15 10:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-15 10:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-15 10:43 ` Andrew Cooper
2025-08-15 10:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-15 11:19 ` Andrew Cooper
2025-08-15 17:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-08-15 17:21 ` Andrew Cooper
2025-08-15 17:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-08-15 5:42 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-08-15 7:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-15 8:28 ` Leon Hwang
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