From: Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com>
To: Benjamin Segall <bsegall@google.com>
Cc: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
Josh Don <joshdon@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Xi Wang <xii@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Chuyi Zhou <zhouchuyi@bytedance.com>,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
Florian Bezdeka <florian.bezdeka@siemens.com>,
Songtang Liu <liusongtang@bytedance.com>,
Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
Matteo Martelli <matteo.martelli@codethink.co.uk>,
Michal Koutn?? <mkoutny@suse.com>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/5] sched/fair: Switch to task based throttle model
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 15:53:38 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250905075338.GK42@bytedance> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250904120401.GJ42@bytedance>
On Thu, Sep 04, 2025 at 08:04:01PM +0800, Aaron Lu wrote:
... ...
> Per my understanding, we keep PELT clock running because we want the
> throttled cfs_rq's load to continue get update when it still has tasks
> running in kernel mode and have that up2date load could let it have a
> hopefully more accurate weight through update_cfs_group(). So it looks
> to me, if PELT clock should not be stopped, then we should not abort in
> propagate_entity_cfs_rq() and update_cfs_group(). I missed these two
> aborts in these two functions, but now you and Peter have pointed this
> out, I suppose there is no doubt we should not abort in
> update_cfs_group() and propagate_entity_cfs_rq()? If we should not mess
> with shares distribution, then the up2date load is not useful and why
> not simply freeze PELT clock on throttle :)
With more thinking, when PELT clock is running, root level cfs_rq's load
can be updated and that is useful for things like load balance.
update_cfs_group() is a different story and as Ben said, there is cons
and pros whether to abort there for throttled cfs_rq so there's no
obvious thing to do for it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-05 7:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-29 8:11 [PATCH v4 0/5] Defer throttle when task exits to user Aaron Lu
2025-08-29 8:11 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] sched/fair: Add related data structure for task based throttle Aaron Lu
2025-09-03 8:05 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Valentin Schneider
2025-08-29 8:11 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] sched/fair: Implement throttle task work and related helpers Aaron Lu
2025-09-03 8:05 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Valentin Schneider
2025-08-29 8:11 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] sched/fair: Switch to task based throttle model Aaron Lu
2025-09-03 8:05 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Valentin Schneider
2025-09-03 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] " Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-03 17:12 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-03 20:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-04 5:44 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-04 7:04 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-05 11:37 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-05 12:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-08 11:05 ` [PATCH] sched/fair: Propagate load for throttled cfs_rq Aaron Lu
2025-09-09 4:20 ` kernel test robot
2025-09-09 6:17 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-09 6:22 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-09 6:27 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-10 9:55 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-03 20:46 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] sched/fair: Switch to task based throttle model Benjamin Segall
2025-09-04 6:03 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-09 4:10 ` Benjamin Segall
2025-09-04 8:16 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-04 9:51 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-04 11:05 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-04 14:20 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-09 3:58 ` Benjamin Segall
2025-09-09 12:03 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-10 3:03 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-04 12:04 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-05 7:53 ` Aaron Lu [this message]
2025-09-03 20:55 ` Benjamin Segall
2025-09-04 11:26 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-04 11:30 ` Aaron Lu
2025-08-29 8:11 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] sched/fair: Task based throttle time accounting Aaron Lu
2025-09-03 8:05 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Aaron Lu
2025-08-29 8:11 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] sched/fair: Get rid of throttled_lb_pair() Aaron Lu
2025-09-03 8:05 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Aaron Lu
2025-09-01 10:03 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] Defer throttle when task exits to user Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-02 8:59 ` Bezdeka, Florian
2025-12-02 9:43 ` Aaron Lu
2025-12-02 10:09 ` Florian Bezdeka
2025-12-02 12:01 ` Aaron Lu
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