From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Chris Mason <clm@meta.com>
Cc: Joseph Salisbury <joseph.salisbury@oracle.com>,
Adam Li <adamli@os.amperecomputing.com>,
Hazem Mohamed Abuelfotoh <abuehaze@amazon.com>,
Josh Don <joshdon@google.com>,
mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
vschneid@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] sched: The newidle balance regression
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 10:37:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251114093711.GG3245006@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6825c50d-7fa7-45d8-9b81-c6e7e25738e2@meta.com>
On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 04:59:45PM -0500, Chris Mason wrote:
> On 11/7/25 11:06 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > So most of you ran into Chris' commit 155213a2aed4 ("sched/fair: Bump
> > sd->max_newidle_lb_cost when newidle balance fails") [*]
> >
> > And I posted a patch with a few alternative options. And while I've heard back
> > from a number of you, indicating that NI_TARGET (the effective revert) works
> > for you. Not many tested TARGET+RANDOM (thanks Adam!).
> >
> > In my limited schbench testing that combination isn't horrible, and per Adam
> > that combination also doesn't suck for him. Chris, could you please see what
> > this does for your machines with your actual workload?
> >
> > Anyway, here are a few patches that basically do the revert and introduce the
> > proportional newidle balance -- the NI_TARGET+NI_RANDOM equivalent.
> >
> > Also at:
> >
> > git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/peterz/queue.git sched/newidle
> >
> > Please all, give it a whirl. Hopefully I didn't wreck it, its Friday after all :-)
> >
> > [*] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/006c9df2-b691-47f1-82e6-e233c3f91faf@oracle.com
>
> This is working well for my original benchmark. Focusing on newidle
> balance schedstat counters (10 second interval):
>
> Linus:
> lb_balance_newly_idle 22854
>
> Mason-revert:
> lb_balance_newly_idle 2334059
>
> Peter:
> lb_balance_newly_idle 75271
>
> The rest of the schbench numbers look good too.
Sweet!
prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-14 9:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-07 16:06 [PATCH 0/4] sched: The newidle balance regression Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07 16:06 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched/fair: Revert max_newidle_lb_cost bump Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-14 12:19 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-17 16:23 ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07 16:06 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched/fair: Small cleanup to sched_balance_newidle() Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-10 13:55 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-11-10 14:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 14:37 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-12 14:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 15:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 15:28 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-14 9:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-14 10:22 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-11-14 11:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-14 13:11 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-11-14 12:19 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-17 16:23 ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07 16:06 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched/fair: Small cleanup to update_newidle_cost() Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-14 12:19 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-17 16:23 ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07 16:06 ` [PATCH 4/4] sched/fair: Proportional newidle balance Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-10 13:55 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-11-11 9:07 ` Adam Li
2025-11-11 9:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 12:04 ` Adam Li
2025-11-12 13:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 15:42 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-14 9:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-14 12:18 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-17 16:23 ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-18 20:46 ` [PATCH 4/4] " Mario Roy
2026-01-23 10:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-23 11:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-23 12:24 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-01-28 4:08 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-01-27 4:15 ` Mario Roy
2026-01-27 10:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-27 15:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-30 1:44 ` Mario Roy
2026-01-30 4:14 ` Mario Roy
2026-02-24 9:13 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: More complex proportional " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-25 12:22 ` [PATCH 4/4] sched/fair: Proportional " Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-01-27 8:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-28 15:48 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-01-29 9:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-29 9:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-30 16:12 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-01-30 13:16 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-02-02 10:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-02 11:07 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-02-04 12:45 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-02-04 13:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-04 13:59 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-02-04 14:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-04 22:48 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-01-27 8:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-27 9:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-28 16:24 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-01-28 16:03 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-04-29 8:51 ` Qing Wang
2026-05-06 2:44 ` [PATCH] sched/fair: Replace random newidle_balance with Bresenham accumulator Qing Wang
2025-11-10 19:47 ` [PATCH 0/4] sched: The newidle balance regression Chris Mason
2025-11-11 19:08 ` Josh Don
2025-11-12 21:59 ` Chris Mason
2025-11-14 9:37 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
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