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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Chris Mason <clm@meta.com>
Cc: Joseph Salisbury <joseph.salisbury@oracle.com>,
	Adam Li <adamli@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Hazem Mohamed Abuelfotoh <abuehaze@amazon.com>,
	Josh Don <joshdon@google.com>,
	mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	vschneid@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] sched: The newidle balance regression
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 10:37:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251114093711.GG3245006@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6825c50d-7fa7-45d8-9b81-c6e7e25738e2@meta.com>

On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 04:59:45PM -0500, Chris Mason wrote:
> On 11/7/25 11:06 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > So most of you ran into Chris' commit 155213a2aed4 ("sched/fair: Bump
> > sd->max_newidle_lb_cost when newidle balance fails") [*]
> > 
> > And I posted a patch with a few alternative options. And while I've heard back
> > from a number of you, indicating that NI_TARGET (the effective revert) works
> > for you. Not many tested TARGET+RANDOM (thanks Adam!).
> > 
> > In my limited schbench testing that combination isn't horrible, and per Adam
> > that combination also doesn't suck for him. Chris, could you please see what
> > this does for your machines with your actual workload?
> > 
> > Anyway, here are a few patches that basically do the revert and introduce the
> > proportional newidle balance -- the NI_TARGET+NI_RANDOM equivalent.
> > 
> > Also at:
> > 
> >   git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/peterz/queue.git sched/newidle
> > 
> > Please all, give it a whirl. Hopefully I didn't wreck it, its Friday after all :-)
> > 
> > [*] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/006c9df2-b691-47f1-82e6-e233c3f91faf@oracle.com 
> 
> This is working well for my original benchmark.  Focusing on newidle
> balance schedstat counters (10 second interval):
> 
> Linus:
> lb_balance_newly_idle              22854
> 
> Mason-revert:
> lb_balance_newly_idle            2334059
> 
> Peter:
> lb_balance_newly_idle              75271
> 
> The rest of the schbench numbers look good too.

Sweet!

      reply	other threads:[~2025-11-14  9:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-07 16:06 [PATCH 0/4] sched: The newidle balance regression Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07 16:06 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched/fair: Revert max_newidle_lb_cost bump Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-14 12:19   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-17 16:23   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07 16:06 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched/fair: Small cleanup to sched_balance_newidle() Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-10 13:55   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-11-10 14:04     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 14:37   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-12 14:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 15:08       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 15:28         ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-14  9:49           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-14 10:22             ` Vincent Guittot
2025-11-14 11:05               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-14 13:11                 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-11-14 12:19   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-17 16:23   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07 16:06 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched/fair: Small cleanup to update_newidle_cost() Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-14 12:19   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-17 16:23   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07 16:06 ` [PATCH 4/4] sched/fair: Proportional newidle balance Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-10 13:55   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-11-11  9:07   ` Adam Li
2025-11-11  9:20     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 12:04       ` Adam Li
2025-11-12 13:41         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 15:42   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-14  9:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-14 12:18   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-17 16:23   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-18 20:46   ` [PATCH 4/4] " Mario Roy
2026-01-23 10:50     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-23 11:03       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-23 12:24         ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-01-28  4:08           ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-01-27  4:15         ` Mario Roy
2026-01-27 10:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-27 15:17           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-30  1:44             ` Mario Roy
2026-01-30  4:14             ` Mario Roy
2026-02-24  9:13             ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: More complex proportional " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-25 12:22     ` [PATCH 4/4] sched/fair: Proportional " Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-01-27  8:44       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-28 15:48         ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-01-29  9:19           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-29  9:24             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-30 16:12               ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-01-30 13:16             ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-02-02 10:51               ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-02 11:07                 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-02-04 12:45                   ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-02-04 13:27                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-04 13:59                       ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-02-04 14:05                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-04 22:48                           ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-01-27  8:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-27  9:13         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-28 16:24           ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-01-28 16:03         ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-04-29  8:51   ` Qing Wang
2026-05-06  2:44     ` [PATCH] sched/fair: Replace random newidle_balance with Bresenham accumulator Qing Wang
2025-11-10 19:47 ` [PATCH 0/4] sched: The newidle balance regression Chris Mason
2025-11-11 19:08 ` Josh Don
2025-11-12 21:59 ` Chris Mason
2025-11-14  9:37   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]

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