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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
Cc: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"open list:PCI SUBSYSTEM" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI/ASPM: Enable L0s/L1 for removable devices when BIOS didn't configure ASPM
Date: Thu, 14 May 2026 17:54:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260514225426.GA441423@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3c6a9ff7-95b2-47dd-87c2-62eec4aefbb1@amd.com>

On Thu, May 14, 2026 at 12:14:29PM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> On 5/6/26 10:27, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > On Wed, May 06, 2026 at 10:10:47AM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> > > On 5/5/26 23:53, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> > > > On Tue, May 05, 2026 at 08:09:22PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, May 5, 2026 at 12:53 AM Mario Limonciello
> > > > > <mario.limonciello@amd.com> wrote:
> > > ...
> > 
> > > > > > +        * For devicetree platforms, enable L0s and L1 by default.
> > > > > > +        *
> > > > > > +        * For removable devices (e.g., Thunderbolt/USB4), enable L0s and L1
> > > > > > +        * by default if BIOS didn't configure any ASPM states. This handles
> > > > > > +        * hotplugged devices where firmware may not have configured ASPM.
> > > > > > +        */
> > > > 
> > > > Only L1 is supported over TB/USB4 tunnel (no L0s, no L1 substates). The
> > > > PCIe endpoint and the downstream port it connects to of course can support
> > > > the full range as that's a real PCIe link.
> > > 
> > > OK - the comment should be updated but I do expect that below code
> > > (link->aspm_support) should remain OK.
> > 
> > TB/USB4 are examples of removable devices but they're not the only
> > ones, so I think it's OK for the comment to mention L0s.  In fact, it
> > *should* mention L0s since the code below includes L0s, and mentioning
> > only L1 would just be confusing.
> > 
> It sounds like you're suggesting no changes to this proposal then, right?

I'm fine with the comment mentioning "L0s and L1", which matches the
code:

  if (link->aspm_support & PCIE_LINK_STATE_L0S)
          link->aspm_default |= PCIE_LINK_STATE_L0S;
  if (link->aspm_support & PCIE_LINK_STATE_L1)
          link->aspm_default |= PCIE_LINK_STATE_L1;

Sashiko had several comments.  I'm hoping for those to be addressed or
responded to.  Unfortunately the complexity of the ASPM code means the
sashiko comments are also very complicated and a lot of work to go
though.

      reply	other threads:[~2026-05-14 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-04 22:52 [PATCH] PCI/ASPM: Enable L0s/L1 for removable devices when BIOS didn't configure ASPM Mario Limonciello
2026-05-05 16:05 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-05-05 16:08   ` Mario Limonciello
2026-05-05 21:42     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-05-06  3:36       ` Mario Limonciello
2026-05-05 18:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-05-06  4:53   ` Mika Westerberg
2026-05-06 15:10     ` Mario Limonciello
2026-05-06 15:27       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-05-14 17:14         ` Mario Limonciello
2026-05-14 22:54           ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]

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