From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] mm: memory-failure: fix HWPoison flag race with non-atomic page flag ops
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2026 18:18:06 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260701180511-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a353c28c-a864-456d-9b00-7f6a932cda73@kernel.org>
On Wed, Jul 01, 2026 at 06:17:23PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 7/1/26 17:54, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 01, 2026 at 10:36:31AM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> >> On 7/1/26 10:33, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>
> >>> what do you think ;) post it?
> >>
> >> As RFC please :) [and if it's AI generated, obviously properly reviewed and
> >> reworked by you]
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> David
> >
> > Not "generated" surely. But assisted, yes.
>
> What I thought.
>
> > Still hacking on it, but the difficulty
> > with memory-failure is that fundamentally, it's not 100% robust.
>
> It's all a bit slapped on top of everything, yes.
>
> What I was wondering is, assuming the call_task_rcu() and it takes forever,
> there might be quite a while where a hwpoisoned page that lost its bit is not
> marked as hwpoisoned.
>
> So you'd actually want the one doing the test_and_set_bit() caller to wait until
> the bit is stable.
not sure I get it.
> But that should be rather hairy as well. :(
>
> >
> > For example, we have a fifo fed by hardware and consumed by a workqueue:
> >
> > struct memory_failure_cpu *mf_cpu;
> > unsigned long proc_flags;
> > bool buffer_overflow;
> > struct memory_failure_entry entry = {
> > .pfn = pfn,
> > .flags = flags,
> > };
> >
> > mf_cpu = &get_cpu_var(memory_failure_cpu);
> > raw_spin_lock_irqsave(&mf_cpu->lock, proc_flags);
> > buffer_overflow = !kfifo_put(&mf_cpu->fifo, entry);
> > if (!buffer_overflow)
> > schedule_work_on(smp_processor_id(), &mf_cpu->work);
> > raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&mf_cpu->lock, proc_flags);
> > put_cpu_var(memory_failure_cpu);
> > if (buffer_overflow)
> > pr_err("buffer overflow when queuing memory failure at %#lx\n",
> > pfn);
> >
> >
> > if there are lots of these and the scheduler is slow and it overflows,
> > it's sayonara you have lost the flag, right?
>
> I guess so. I assume on relevant hw you wouldn't expect a storm. But who knows :)
>
> >
> >
> > Oh and by the way, I just noticed that when buddy merges pages it does
> > not check the poison bit. So it looks like there's a simple way to lose
> > the poison bit - have it merge with a non poisoned page.
>
> When we poison, we try to take the free page off the buddy. At least that's what
> I remember.
Yes but not immediately - we set hwpoison then we try to take it off.
> So I think we would just then go ahead and split the free higher-order buddy
> page to remove the single page.
Later we split, yes. But I don't see where it sets HWPoison after
split - it calls
SetPageHWPoisonTakenOff but it seems to assume HWPoison is already set.
Am I missing something? It's late here...
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-01 22:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-28 21:45 [PATCH 0/2] mm: memory-failure: fix HWPoison flag race with non-atomic page flag ops Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-28 21:45 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: memory-failure: use RCU to fix HWPoison flag race Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-28 21:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: wrap non-atomic page flag ops in RCU for HWPoison safety Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29 2:11 ` [PATCH 0/2] mm: memory-failure: fix HWPoison flag race with non-atomic page flag ops Andi Kleen
2026-06-29 8:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29 8:21 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-29 8:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29 16:54 ` Andi Kleen
2026-06-29 17:04 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-29 20:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29 6:49 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-29 7:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29 13:05 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-29 20:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29 20:55 ` Andi Kleen
2026-06-29 21:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29 21:39 ` Andi Kleen
2026-06-29 21:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29 21:22 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-29 21:43 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-29 23:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-30 6:17 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-30 6:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-30 6:34 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-30 7:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29 21:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-30 6:30 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-30 6:41 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-30 21:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-01 8:08 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-01 8:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-01 8:26 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-01 8:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-01 8:36 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-01 15:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-01 16:17 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-01 22:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2026-06-29 21:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-01 7:25 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-29 23:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-01 7:31 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
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