careful review of kdbus

careful review of kdbus

[Martin Steigerwald]

Hello!

In the light of

        * kdbus support is no longer compile-time optional. It is now
          always built-in. However, it can still be disabled at
          runtime using the kdbus=0 kernel command line setting, and
          that setting may be changed to default to off, by specifying
          --disable-kdbus at build-time. Note though that the kernel
          command line setting has no effect if the kdbus.ko kernel
          module is not installed, in which case kdbus is (obviously)
          also disabled. We encourage all downstream distributions to
          begin testing kdbus by adding it to the kernel images in the
          development distributions, and leaving kdbus support in
          systemd enabled.

Lennart Poettering: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v221
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-June/033170.html

I hope you kernel developers will still review kdbus carefully as you did so 
far, instead of giving in to any downstream pressure by distros.

It is exactly this attitude and this approach of systemd upstream that I 
feel uneasy about. Instead of humbly waiting and working towards having 
kdbus accepted to the kernel, systemd developers seem to use any means to 
create indirect pressure to have it included eventually.

I hope that it will still be technical excellence as entry barrier for 
anything that goes into the kernel.

Please note: I do not judge upon the technical quality of kdbus. I think 
others are more knowledgeable to do it.

Thank you,
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Re: careful review of kdbus

[Rogelio Serrano]

On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Martin Steigerwald
<martin@lichtvoll.de> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> In the light of
>
>         * kdbus support is no longer compile-time optional. It is now
>           always built-in. However, it can still be disabled at

a patch to remove all of that code would be welcome...

>           runtime using the kdbus=0 kernel command line setting, and
>           that setting may be changed to default to off, by specifying
>           --disable-kdbus at build-time. Note though that the kernel
>           command line setting has no effect if the kdbus.ko kernel
>           module is not installed, in which case kdbus is (obviously)
>           also disabled. We encourage all downstream distributions to
>           begin testing kdbus by adding it to the kernel images in the
>           development distributions, and leaving kdbus support in
>           systemd enabled.
>
> Lennart Poettering: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v221
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-June/033170.html
>
> I hope you kernel developers will still review kdbus carefully as you did so
> far, instead of giving in to any downstream pressure by distros.
>
> It is exactly this attitude and this approach of systemd upstream that I
> feel uneasy about. Instead of humbly waiting and working towards having
> kdbus accepted to the kernel, systemd developers seem to use any means to
> create indirect pressure to have it included eventually.
>
> I hope that it will still be technical excellence as entry barrier for
> anything that goes into the kernel.
>
> Please note: I do not judge upon the technical quality of kdbus. I think
> others are more knowledgeable to do it.
>
> Thank you,
> --
> Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de
> GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA  B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7
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