* bug in float on Pentium
@ 2001-04-13 23:23 Joe
2001-04-14 2:57 ` Alan Cox
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From: Joe @ 2001-04-13 23:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel
Not sure but I think I found a NEW bug.
I know that there have been some issues with pentiums and floating point
arrithmatic, but this takes the cake...
Linux Lserver.org 2.2.18 #43 SMP Fri Mar 9 14:19:41 EST 2001 i586
unknown
>kgcc --version
egcs-2.91.66
RH 6.2.x / 7.0
try this program
#include <stdio.h>
int main() {
char tmpx[100];
char tmpy[100];
double x = 5483.99;
float y = 5483.99;
sprintf (tmpx, "%f",x );
sprintf (tmpy, "%f",y );
printf ("%s\n%s\n", tmpx, tmpy);
return 0;
}
I am getting the following as output
joeja@Lserver$ ./testf
5483.990000
5483.990234
what is with the .990234?? it should be .990000
any ideas on this??
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* Re: bug in float on Pentium
2001-04-13 23:23 bug in float on Pentium Joe
@ 2001-04-14 2:57 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-14 3:01 ` Jakob Østergaard
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From: Alan Cox @ 2001-04-14 2:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: joeja; +Cc: linux-kernel
> Not sure but I think I found a NEW bug.
> I know that there have been some issues with pentiums and floating point
> arrithmatic, but this takes the cake...
Hardly. Floats are inaccurate.
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* Re: bug in float on Pentium
2001-04-13 23:23 bug in float on Pentium Joe
2001-04-14 2:57 ` Alan Cox
@ 2001-04-14 3:01 ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-04-14 5:35 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-04-15 6:02 ` Matt Billenstein
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From: Jakob Østergaard @ 2001-04-14 3:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Joe; +Cc: linux-kernel
On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 07:23:24PM -0400, Joe wrote:
> Not sure but I think I found a NEW bug.
>
> I know that there have been some issues with pentiums and floating point
> arrithmatic, but this takes the cake...
>
> Linux Lserver.org 2.2.18 #43 SMP Fri Mar 9 14:19:41 EST 2001 i586
> unknown
>
...
>
>
> I am getting the following as output
>
> joeja@Lserver$ ./testf
> 5483.990000
> 5483.990234
>
>
> what is with the .990234?? it should be .990000
>
> any ideas on this??
>
Your second number is a 32-bit float - which has roughly 7 digits of
precision. Just like your program output clearly shows.
(I do however fail to see the relevance of this to linux-kernel)
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* Re: bug in float on Pentium
2001-04-13 23:23 bug in float on Pentium Joe
2001-04-14 2:57 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-14 3:01 ` Jakob Østergaard
@ 2001-04-14 5:35 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-04-15 6:02 ` Matt Billenstein
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From: Jonathan Morton @ 2001-04-14 5:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: joeja, linux-kernel
> double x = 5483.99;
> float y = 5483.99;
>5483.990000
>5483.990234
Well, duh. Floats are less accurate than doubles, so what? Read your C
textbook again.
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* Re: bug in float on Pentium
2001-04-13 23:23 bug in float on Pentium Joe
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2001-04-14 5:35 ` Jonathan Morton
@ 2001-04-15 6:02 ` Matt Billenstein
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From: Matt Billenstein @ 2001-04-15 6:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: joeja, linux-kernel
It's not that you found a new bug or that floats are inaccurate (they are
just less exact than doubles)... For example, if you make your program
print some more digits, you'll get:
5483.98999999999978172127157449722290039062500000000000
5483.99023437500000000000000000000000000000000000000000
#include <stdio.h>
int main() {
unsigned int *X;
unsigned int *Y;
double x = 5483.99;
float y = 5483.99;
X = (unsigned int *)&x;
Y = (unsigned int *)&y;
printf ("%60.50lf\n%60.50f\n", x, y);
printf("%lf %x%x %f %x\n", x, X[1], X[0], y, *Y);
return 0;
}
which you can verify by hand:
5483.990000 40b56bfd70a3d70a
0 10000001011 1.0101 0110 1011 1111 1101 0111 0000 1010 0011 1101 0111 0000
1010
+ 2^12 * 1.3388647460937499467092948179925 =
5483.989999999999781721271574497222900390625
5483.990234 45ab5fec
0 10001011 1.010 1011 0101 1111 1110 1100
+ 2^12 * 1.338864803314208984375 = 5489.990234375
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe" <joeja@mindspring.com>
To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 7:23 PM
Subject: bug in float on Pentium
| Not sure but I think I found a NEW bug.
|
| I know that there have been some issues with pentiums and floating point
| arrithmatic, but this takes the cake...
|
| Linux Lserver.org 2.2.18 #43 SMP Fri Mar 9 14:19:41 EST 2001 i586
| unknown
|
| >kgcc --version
| egcs-2.91.66
|
| RH 6.2.x / 7.0
|
| try this program
|
| #include <stdio.h>
|
| int main() {
|
| char tmpx[100];
| char tmpy[100];
|
| double x = 5483.99;
| float y = 5483.99;
|
| sprintf (tmpx, "%f",x );
| sprintf (tmpy, "%f",y );
|
| printf ("%s\n%s\n", tmpx, tmpy);
| return 0;
| }
|
|
| I am getting the following as output
|
| joeja@Lserver$ ./testf
| 5483.990000
| 5483.990234
|
|
| what is with the .990234?? it should be .990000
|
| any ideas on this??
|
| --
| Joe Acosta ........
| home: joeja@mindspring.com
|
|
|
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