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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] printk from userspace
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:44:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D59E035.3080506@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.LNX.4.44.0208132142310.1208-100000@home.transmeta.com

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Benjamin LaHaise wrote:
> 
>>/dev/kmsg was another suggestion for the name.  But please revert the 
>>yet-another-syscall variant -- having a duplicate way for logging that 
>>doesn't work with stdio just seems sick to me (sys_syslog should die).
> 
> 
> Actually, anybody who uses stdio on syslog messages should be roasted. 
> Over the nice romantic glow of red-hot coal, slowly cooking the stupid git 
> alive.
> 
> It's not a bug, it's a feature. A syslog message needs to be atomic, which 
> means that it MUST NOT use the buffering of stdio. 
> 

You can do stdio nonbuffered.  As a matter of fact, if you're using 
klogd, it *will* be nonbuffered :^)

The point that Ben is making is that it should be a write() system call 
instead of something ad hockish, and I think I have to agree with him -- 
although, again, Andrew's patch does what I need.

	-hpa



  reply	other threads:[~2002-08-14  4:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-14  3:18 [patch] printk from userspace Andrew Morton
2002-08-14  3:58 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-08-14  4:00   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-08-14  4:05     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-08-14  4:10   ` Alexander Viro
2002-08-14  4:11   ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-14  4:07     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-08-14  4:20       ` Alexander Viro
2002-08-14  4:26         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-14  4:35           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-08-14  4:42             ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-08-14  4:44             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-14  4:44               ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2002-08-14  4:48               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-08-14  4:58             ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-14  5:32               ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-08-19 11:28                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-14  7:59           ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2002-08-14 16:12             ` serial console (was Re: [patch] printk from userspace) Arkadiusz Miskiewicz
2002-08-15 12:43               ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2002-08-14  4:33         ` [patch] printk from userspace H. Peter Anvin

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