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From: george anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Michael Hohnbaum <hbaum@us.ibm.com>,
	"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] linux-2.5.34_vsyscall_A0
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 09:45:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DB03AB5.99A91B6F@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1034957619.5401.8.camel@dell_ss3.pdx.osdl.net

Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> 
> One reason gettimeofday ends up being important is that several
> databases call it a lot. They use it to build up a transaction id. Under
> big transaction loads, even the fast linux syscall path ends up being a
> bottleneck. Also, on NUMA machines the data used for time of day (xtime)
> ends up being a significant portion of the cache traffic.
> 
> It would be great to rework the whole TSC time of day stuff to work with
> per cpu data and allow unsychronized TSC's like NUMA. The problem is
> that for fast user level access, there would need to be some way to find
> out the current CPU and avoid preemption/migration for a short period.
> It seems like the LDT stuff for per-thread data could provide the
> current cpu (and maybe current pid) somehow.  And it would be possible
> to avoid  preemption while in a vsyscall text page, some other Unix
> variants do this to implement portions of the thread library in kernel
> provided user text pages.
> 
Now there is an idea!  Lock preemption in user space if and
only if the user is executing in a text page shared with the
kernel.  I have seen the need for such locking, but have
always thought they were too dangerous.  This convention
would introduce a much higher level of security.  What is
left is to devise a way to let the kernel know that the
preemption targeted task has left such a page so that the
preemption may proceed.  Possibly the kernel could plant a
hint on the page that each function would check for on exit.
-- 
George Anzinger   george@mvista.com
High-res-timers: 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/
Preemption patch:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml

  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-18 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-18  4:25 [RFC][PATCH] linux-2.5.34_vsyscall_A0 john stultz
2002-10-18  4:26 ` [RFC] linux-2.5.34_vsyscall_A0 - Test App john stultz
2002-10-18 11:14 ` [RFC][PATCH] linux-2.5.34_vsyscall_A0 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-18 16:13   ` Stephen Hemminger
2002-10-18 16:45     ` george anzinger [this message]
2002-10-18 17:11       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-18 17:19         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-10-18 17:21           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-18 18:37             ` Stephen Hemminger
2002-10-18 18:51               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-18 19:30           ` george anzinger
2002-10-18 17:01     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-10-21 13:18     ` Alan Cox
2002-10-21 17:15       ` john stultz
2002-10-18 16:39   ` john stultz
2002-10-18 18:54 ` [RFC] vsyscall_A0 LD_PRELOAD implementation john stultz
2002-10-21 22:44 ` [RFC][PATCH] linux-2.5.34_vsyscall_A0 Stephen Hemminger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-10-18 18:21 Manfred Spraul

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