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* Results of using tar with 2.5.[60 63 62-mm3] and reiser[fs 4], ext3, xfs.
@ 2003-02-26 19:50 Steven Cole
  2003-02-27 20:15 ` Hans Reiser
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Steven Cole @ 2003-02-26 19:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linux Kernel; +Cc: Andrew Morton, Hans Reiser

Greetings all,

I ran the following script for several recent kernels with
several journaling filesystems.  I patched in reiser4 from
namesys.com, downloaded yesterday.  Sorry, no jfs data.

#!/bin/sh
for i in 1 2 3 4 5
do
        time rm -rf linux-2.5.63
        time tar zxf linux-2.5.63.tar.gz
        time sync
        echo ' '
done

The following data is from the 5th run in each case.  The data seemed
fairly consistent, so I didn't average the runs.  All the results are
saved if anyone cares.

The tar files were created on the file systems being tested.

Brief summary: It looks like the order of performance for this
particular load is reiserfs, reiser4, ext3, xfs.
Something changed with ext3 behavior following 2.5.60,
and xfs takes the biggest hit from anticipatory i/o scheduler, (for
this load).

Minor footnote: to get reiser4 to compile with 2.5.62-mm3, it was 
necessary to s/UPDATE_ATIME/update_atime/g in some reiser4 files.

Steven

---------------------------------------------------------------------
2.5.60:

reiserfs:
rm -rf linux-2.5.63         0.02user 1.71system 0:02.16elapsed 80%CPU 
tar zxf linux-2.5.63.tar.gz 4.83user 5.86system 0:14.09elapsed 75%CPU 
sync                        0.00user 0.03system 0:00.96elapsed 3%CPU 

reiser4:
rm -rf linux-2.5.63         0.15user 3.26system 0:07.12elapsed 47%CPU 
tar zxf linux-2.5.63.tar.gz 4.86user 7.93system 0:15.18elapsed 84%CPU 
sync                        0.00user 0.35system 0:01.17elapsed 30%CPU 

ext3:
rm -rf linux-2.5.63         0.02user 0.56system 0:03.02elapsed 19%CPU 
tar zxf linux-2.5.63.tar.gz 5.04user 4.85system 0:23.03elapsed 42%CPU 
sync                        0.00user 0.04system 0:08.14elapsed 0%CPU 

xfs:
rm -rf linux-2.5.63         0.06user 2.46system 0:09.97elapsed 25%CPU 
tar zxf linux-2.5.63.tar.gz 4.94user 6.47system 0:35.17elapsed 32%CPU 
sync                        0.00user 0.01system 0:03.53elapsed 0%CPU 

---------------------------------------------------------------------
2.5.63:

reiserfs:
rm -rf linux-2.5.63         0.03user 1.73system 0:01.81elapsed 97%CPU 
tar zxf linux-2.5.63.tar.gz 4.86user 6.22system 0:14.39elapsed 77%CPU 
sync                        0.00user 0.02system 0:01.32elapsed 1%CPU 

reiser4:
rm -rf linux-2.5.63         0.18user 3.30system 0:06.50elapsed 53%CPU 
tar zxf linux-2.5.63.tar.gz 4.86user 8.09system 0:14.82elapsed 87%CPU 
sync                        0.00user 0.36system 0:01.13elapsed 31%CPU 

ext3:
rm -rf linux-2.5.63         0.02user 0.56system 0:00.67elapsed 86%CPU 
tar zxf linux-2.5.63.tar.gz 4.69user 4.77system 0:14.92elapsed 63%CPU 
sync                        0.00user 0.18system 0:15.11elapsed 1%CPU 

xfs:
rm -rf linux-2.5.63         0.04user 2.39system 0:07.07elapsed 34%CPU 
tar zxf linux-2.5.63.tar.gz 5.11user 6.63system 0:38.43elapsed 30%CPU 
sync                        0.00user 0.09system 0:03.59elapsed 2%CPU 

---------------------------------------------------------------------
2.5.62-mm3 elevator=as:

reiserfs:
rm -rf linux-2.5.63         0.03user 1.76system 0:01.82elapsed 98%CPU 
tar zxf linux-2.5.63.tar.gz 4.96user 6.35system 0:14.09elapsed 80%CPU 
sync                        0.00user 0.13system 0:03.74elapsed 3%CPU 

reiser4:
rm -rf linux-2.5.63         0.14user 3.25system 0:06.37elapsed 53%CPU 
tar zxf linux-2.5.63.tar.gz 5.02user 8.31system 0:15.40elapsed 86%CPU 
sync                        0.00user 0.36system 0:01.21elapsed 30%CPU 

ext3:
rm -rf linux-2.5.63         0.03user 0.55system 0:00.75elapsed 77%CPU 
tar zxf linux-2.5.63.tar.gz 4.75user 4.42system 0:16.83elapsed 54%CPU 
sync                        0.00user 0.18system 0:15.94elapsed 1%CPU 

xfs:
rm -rf linux-2.5.63         0.07user 2.46system 0:07.71elapsed 32%CPU 
tar zxf linux-2.5.63.tar.gz 5.11user 6.80system 0:42.07elapsed 28%CPU 
sync                        0.00user 0.11system 0:03.74elapsed 3%CPU 





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* Re: Results of using tar with 2.5.[60 63 62-mm3] and reiser[fs 4], ext3, xfs.
  2003-02-26 19:50 Results of using tar with 2.5.[60 63 62-mm3] and reiser[fs 4], ext3, xfs Steven Cole
@ 2003-02-27 20:15 ` Hans Reiser
  2003-02-28 14:23   ` Bill Davidsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Hans Reiser @ 2003-02-27 20:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Steven Cole; +Cc: Linux Kernel, Andrew Morton, Reiserfs developers mail-list

Steven Cole wrote:

>
>Brief summary: It looks like the order of performance for this
>particular load is reiserfs, reiser4, ext3, xfs.
>

The performance of reiserfs V3 relative to ext3 and XFS in this 
benchmark is consistent with past experience as best I can remember it.  
I would say that roughly speaking these results have been true without 
major change during the period we have been testing (at least for 
writes, ext3 does better on reads, and I won't predict which of ext3 or 
reiserfs is currently faster for reads, ext3 has tended to have a slight 
read speed advantage for linux kernel source code).

The ~6% disadvantage of V4 compared to V3 is a bit surprising, and we 
are still evaluating that result.  We just checked in a complete rewrite 
of the flushing code today: give us a few weeks of analysis and we will 
hopefully have better results for V4 versus V3.  The primary purpose of 
the rewrite was code clarity, but rumor has it we found unnecessary work 
being done during the rewrite and corrected it.;-)  With clear code it 
will be easier for us to analyze what it is doing.

I would advise using a larger benchmark with  30-60 kernels being 
copied.  Filesystems sometimes perform differently for sync than for 
memory pressure.

I would be interested to understand why ext3 is slower for sync: is it 
because it has more in its write cache, or because of something else?  
If it has more in its write cache, then our write caching is less 
aggressive in reiser4 than I want it to be, and if it is something else 
then the ext3 guys need to look into it.

Thanks for doing this test.

-- 
Hans



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* Re: Results of using tar with 2.5.[60 63 62-mm3] and reiser[fs 4], ext3, xfs.
  2003-02-27 20:15 ` Hans Reiser
@ 2003-02-28 14:23   ` Bill Davidsen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Bill Davidsen @ 2003-02-28 14:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hans Reiser
  Cc: Steven Cole, Linux Kernel, Andrew Morton,
	Reiserfs developers mail-list

On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Hans Reiser wrote:


> I would advise using a larger benchmark with  30-60 kernels being 
> copied.  Filesystems sometimes perform differently for sync than for 
> memory pressure.

Agreed, a benchmark suite gives a better view of overall performance.

When ext3 came out I benchmarked it running a usenet news server. I
configured it for one file per article and fed in about 100k articles with
each one being offered multiple times to generate both rejects and
accepts. I suppose I should do that again, it would give some insight into
performance creating *lots* of files, many in the same directory.

Needless to say for production use I configure a news server for least
resources and the filesystem plays little part in the performance.

-- 
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
  CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979.


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