From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Lincoln Dale <ltd@cisco.com>
Cc: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
ptb@it.uc3m.es, Justin Cormack <justin@street-vision.com>,
linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ENBD for 2.5.64
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:49:01 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E81AFCD.10709@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030326182627.0387b1a0@mira-sjcm-3.cisco.com>
Lincoln Dale wrote:
> At 11:55 PM 25/03/2003 -0600, Matt Mackall wrote:
>
>> > Yeah, iSCSI handles all that and more. It's a behemoth of a
>> > specification. (whether a particular implementation implements all
>> that
>> > stuff correctly is another matter...)
>>
>> Indeed, there are iSCSI implementations that do multipath and
>> failover.
>
>
> iSCSI is a transport.
> logically, any "multipathing" and "failover" belongs in a layer above it
> -- typically as a block-layer function -- and not as a transport-layer
> function.
>
> multipathing belongs elsewhere -- whether it be in MD, LVM, EVMS,
> DevMapper -- or in a commercial implementation such as Veritas VxDMP,
> HDS HDLM, EMC PowerPath, ...
I think you will find that most Linux kernel developers agree w/ you :)
That said, iSCSI error recovery can be considered as supporting some of
what multipathing and failover accomplish. iSCSI can be shoving bits
through multiple TCP connections, or fail over from one TCP connection
to another.
>> Both iSCSI and ENBD currently have issues with pending writes during
>> network outages. The current I/O layer fails to report failed writes
>> to fsync and friends.
...not if your iSCSI implementation is up to spec. ;-)
> these are not "iSCSI" or "ENBD" issues. these are issues with VFS.
VFS+VM. But, agreed.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-03-26 13:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <1048623613.25914.14.camel@lotte>
2003-03-25 20:53 ` [PATCH] ENBD for 2.5.64 Peter T. Breuer
2003-03-26 2:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-26 5:55 ` Matt Mackall
2003-03-26 6:31 ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-03-26 6:48 ` Matt Mackall
2003-03-26 7:05 ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-03-26 6:59 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-03-26 13:58 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-26 7:31 ` Lincoln Dale
2003-03-26 9:59 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-03-26 10:18 ` Andrew Morton
2003-03-26 13:49 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2003-03-26 16:09 ` Matt Mackall
[not found] ` <5.1.0.14.2.20030327085031.04aa7128@mira-sjcm-3.cisco.com>
2003-03-26 22:40 ` Matt Mackall
2003-03-28 11:19 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-30 20:48 ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-03-26 22:16 Lincoln Dale
2003-03-26 22:56 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-03-26 23:21 ` Lincoln Dale
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-03-26 22:16 Lincoln Dale
2003-03-26 22:32 ` Andre Hedrick
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.10.10303261422580.25072-100000@master.linux-ide .org>
2003-03-26 23:03 ` Lincoln Dale
2003-03-26 23:39 ` Andre Hedrick
[not found] <5.1.0.14.2.20030327083757.037c0760@mira-sjcm-3.cisco.com>
2003-03-26 22:02 ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-03-26 23:49 ` Lincoln Dale
2003-03-27 0:08 ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-03-25 17:27 Peter T. Breuer
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