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From: Andrey Grodzovsky <andrey.grodzovsky@amd.com>
To: "Rob Clark" <robdclark@gmail.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Cc: dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	freedreno <freedreno@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rob Clark <robdclark@chromium.org>, Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>,
	Abhinav Kumar <quic_abhinavk@quicinc.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Akhil P Oommen <quic_akhilpo@quicinc.com>,
	Jonathan Marek <jonathan@marek.ca>,
	AngeloGioacchino Del Regno 
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
	Vladimir Lypak <vladimir.lypak@gmail.com>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] drm/msm/gpu: Park scheduler threads for system suspend
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 14:10:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3a475e5a-1090-e2f4-779c-6915fc8524b1@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF6AEGsyFAOPmHqT7YX1wsukP4-gYAstCukr89r9w28V0YSCUw@mail.gmail.com>


On 2022-03-17 13:35, Rob Clark wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 9:45 AM Christian König
> <christian.koenig@amd.com> wrote:
>> Am 17.03.22 um 17:18 schrieb Rob Clark:
>>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 9:04 AM Christian König
>>> <christian.koenig@amd.com> wrote:
>>>> Am 17.03.22 um 16:10 schrieb Rob Clark:
>>>>> [SNIP]
>>>>> userspace frozen != kthread frozen .. that is what this patch is
>>>>> trying to address, so we aren't racing between shutting down the hw
>>>>> and the scheduler shoveling more jobs at us.
>>>> Well exactly that's the problem. The scheduler is supposed to shoveling
>>>> more jobs at us until it is empty.
>>>>
>>>> Thinking more about it we will then keep some dma_fence instance
>>>> unsignaled and that is and extremely bad idea since it can lead to
>>>> deadlocks during suspend.
>>> Hmm, perhaps that is true if you need to migrate things out of vram?
>>> It is at least not a problem when vram is not involved.
>> No, it's much wider than that.
>>
>> See what can happen is that the memory management shrinkers want to wait
>> for a dma_fence during suspend.
> we don't wait on fences in shrinker, only purging or evicting things
> that are already ready.  Actually, waiting on fences in shrinker path
> sounds like a pretty bad idea.
>
>> And if you stop the scheduler they will just wait forever.
>>
>> What you need to do instead is to drain the scheduler, e.g. call
>> drm_sched_entity_flush() with a proper timeout for each entity you have
>> created.
> yeah, it would work to drain the scheduler.. I guess that might be the
> more portable approach as far as generic solution for suspend.
>
> BR,
> -R


I am not sure how this drains the scheduler ? Suppose we done the 
waiting in drm_sched_entity_flush,
what prevents someone to push right away another job into the same 
entity's queue  right after that ?
Shouldn't we first disable further pushing of jobs into entity before we 
wait for  sched->job_scheduled ?

Andrey


>
>> Regards,
>> Christian.
>>
>>>> So this patch here is an absolute clear NAK from my side. If amdgpu is
>>>> doing something similar that is a severe bug and needs to be addressed
>>>> somehow.
>>> I think amdgpu's use of kthread_park is not related to suspend, but
>>> didn't look too closely.
>>>
>>> And perhaps the solution for this problem is more complex in the case
>>> of amdgpu, I'm not super familiar with the constraints there.  But I
>>> think it is a fine solution for integrated GPUs.
>>>
>>> BR,
>>> -R
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Christian.
>>>>
>>>>> BR,
>>>>> -R
>>>>>

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-17 18:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-10 23:46 [PATCH 0/3] drm/msm/gpu: More system suspend fixes Rob Clark
2022-03-10 23:46 ` [PATCH 1/3] drm/msm/gpu: Rename runtime suspend/resume functions Rob Clark
2022-03-11  9:26   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-03-10 23:46 ` [PATCH 2/3] drm/msm/gpu: Park scheduler threads for system suspend Rob Clark
2022-03-17  9:59   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-03-17 10:06     ` Christian König
2022-03-17 14:58       ` Matthew Brost
2022-03-17 15:10       ` Rob Clark
2022-03-17 16:04         ` Christian König
2022-03-17 16:18           ` Rob Clark
2022-03-17 16:44             ` Christian König
2022-03-17 17:29               ` Daniel Vetter
2022-03-17 17:35               ` Rob Clark
2022-03-17 18:10                 ` Andrey Grodzovsky [this message]
2022-03-17 18:25                   ` Rob Clark
2022-03-17 19:49                     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2022-03-17 20:35                       ` Rob Clark
2022-03-18 16:04                         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2022-03-18 16:20                           ` Rob Clark
2022-03-18 16:27                             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2022-03-18 17:22                               ` Rob Clark
2022-03-18 20:14                                 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2022-03-17 17:46           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2022-03-10 23:46 ` [PATCH 3/3] drm/msm/gpu: Remove mutex from wait_event condition Rob Clark
2022-03-17 20:45   ` [Freedreno] " Akhil P Oommen
2022-03-17 21:07     ` Rob Clark

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