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From: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
To: akpm@linux-foundation.org
Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, rjw@sisk.pl,
	James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com, aneesh.kumar@gmail.com,
	drzeus@drzeus.cx, dwmw2@infradead.org, ego@in.ibm.com,
	greg@kroah.com, mingo@elte.hu, neilb@suse.de, oleg@tv-sign.ru,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, pavel@ucw.cz, vatsa@in.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 128/197] freezer: add try_to_freeze calls to all kernel threads
Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 12:44:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4641A5F1.5080901@s5r6.in-berlin.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200705090934.l499YTvX019783@shell0.pdx.osdl.net>

akpm@linux-foundation.org wrote:
> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> 
> Add try_to_freeze() calls to the remaining kernel threads that do not call
> try_to_freeze() already, although they set PF_NOFREEZE.
> 
> In the future we are going to replace PF_NOFREEZE with a set of flags that
> will be set to indicate in which situations the task should not be frozen (for
> example, there can be a task that should be frozen for the CPU hotplugging and
> should not be frozen for the system suspend).  For this reason every kernel
> thread should be able to freeze itself (ie.  call try_to_freeze()), so that it
> can be frozen whenever necessary.

A few questions:

Does try_to_freeze()'s kerneldoc document that try_to_freeze() is a
no-op sometimes but should nevertheless be called for this and that
reason?  (I don't know the entire patch series.)

Why add no-op-try_to_freeze() everywhere now, instead of adding it later
when it will actually be needed?  (I.e. "in the future".)

Can we please have a future where no device driver has to care if and
when and how to freeze its threads?
-- 
Stefan Richter
-=====-=-=== -=-= -=--=
http://arcgraph.de/sr/

       reply	other threads:[~2007-05-09 10:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200705090934.l499YTvX019783@shell0.pdx.osdl.net>
2007-05-09 10:44 ` Stefan Richter [this message]
2007-05-09 10:49   ` [patch 128/197] freezer: add try_to_freeze calls to all kernel threads Pavel Machek
2007-05-09 12:06     ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-09 12:16       ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-05-09 13:20         ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-09 15:29           ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-05-09 18:18             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-09 18:48               ` Stefan Richter

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