From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, npiggin@kernel.dk,
shaohua.li@intel.com, sds@tycho.nsa.gov, jmorris@namei.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>,
Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Subject: Re: Make RCU dcache work with CONFIG_SECURITY=y
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:32:52 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DB1F404.1060504@schaufler-ca.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110422211649.GW16484@one.firstfloor.org>
On 4/22/2011 2:16 PM, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:26:09AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:
>>> I didn't find good test suites for the security modules, so
>>> there wasn't a lot of testing on this unfortunately
>>> (the selinux one for LTP doesn't seem to work). Some close
>>> review of these changes is needed.
>>>
>>> On the other hand the VFS changes itself are very straight forward
>>> and the 1/1 patch is very straight forward (and a win in itself)
>>>
>>> The bottom line is with this patchkit a CONFIG_SECURITY=y
>>> kernel has as good VFS performance as a kernel with CONFIG_SECURITY
>>> disabled.
>> Gaah. My immediate reaction to the patch-series was "This is great, I
>> was really hoping we could get all those annoying cases sorted out,
>> and I'll queue them for the next merge window".
>>
>> Having then actually read through the patches a bit more, I then got
>> convinced that at least the first patch should probably be applied
>> right away and be marked for stable, since it looks pretty damn
>> obvious to me, and it might already on its own fix the performance
>> regression for some configurations (although realistically I guess few
>> enough people really do the "selinux=0" thing, so the big advantage is
>> making easier to backport the other patches later if we don't do them
>> now).
> Yes I agree. The first patch is (nearly) a no-brainer and already
> has significant benefits. I would like to see it in .39.
>
>> Comments? I'd really like to see/hear feedback like "yeah, this looks
>> really obviously safe" vs "yeah, looks good, but I really don't feel
>> very comfortable with it" from the security people.
> Especially SMACK review is needed.
I am happy to get all the help I can on this. I am not now
nor have I ever been especially comfortable with sophisticated
locking models. Where possible I have written code with minimal
locking requirements, but sometimes you just can't avoid it. I
have been fortunate in that several people have offered advice
in the past.
> Or maybe selinux only for now,
> already got one ack for that.
>
> (BTW I have some doubts on the locking in smack in general,
> but that's a separate issue -- see other thread)
>
> -Andi
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-22 21:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-22 0:23 Make RCU dcache work with CONFIG_SECURITY=y Andi Kleen
2011-04-22 0:23 ` [PATCH 1/3] SECURITY: Move exec_permission RCU checks into security modules Andi Kleen
2011-04-22 0:46 ` Eric Paris
2011-04-22 4:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-22 15:25 ` Andi Kleen
2011-04-22 15:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-22 0:23 ` [PATCH 2/3] SELINUX: Make selinux cache VFS RCU walks safe Andi Kleen
2011-04-22 0:45 ` Eric Paris
2011-04-22 15:16 ` Andi Kleen
2011-04-22 0:23 ` [PATCH 3/3] SMACK: Make smack directory access check RCU safe Andi Kleen
2011-04-22 1:40 ` Make RCU dcache work with CONFIG_SECURITY=y Shaohua Li
2011-04-22 18:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-22 21:16 ` Andi Kleen
2011-04-22 21:32 ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
2011-04-22 21:17 ` Eric Paris
2011-04-22 23:29 ` Linus Torvalds
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