From: Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>
To: Liu Wei <liuwei09@cestc.cn>,
sudeep.holla@arm.com, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: catalin.marinas@arm.com, guohanjun@huawei.com,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lpieralisi@kernel.org,
rafael@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ACPI: Do not enable ACPI SPCR console by default on arm64
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 08:04:45 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4aff3fb4-cf1b-4c09-918a-3c4252a34bd6@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240618164024.tehpbscax47jkluj@bogus>
On 6/18/24 23:43, Liu Wei wrote:
> From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 04:29:24PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 09:06:17AM -0400, Prarit Bhargava wrote:
>>>> On 5/29/24 21:53, Liu Wei wrote:
>>>>> Consistency with x86 and loongarch, don't enable ACPI SPCR console
>>>>> by default on arm64
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Liu Wei <liuwei09@cestc.cn>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> arch/arm64/kernel/acpi.c | 3 ++-
>>>>> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/kernel/acpi.c b/arch/arm64/kernel/acpi.c
>>>>> index dba8fcec7f33..1deda3e5a0d2 100644
>>>>> --- a/arch/arm64/kernel/acpi.c
>>>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/kernel/acpi.c
>>>>> @@ -227,7 +227,8 @@ void __init acpi_boot_table_init(void)
>>>>> if (earlycon_acpi_spcr_enable)
>>>>> early_init_dt_scan_chosen_stdout();
>>>>> } else {
>>>>> - acpi_parse_spcr(earlycon_acpi_spcr_enable, true);
>>>>> + /* Do not enable ACPI SPCR console by default */
>>>>> + acpi_parse_spcr(earlycon_acpi_spcr_enable, false);
>>>>> if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ACPI_BGRT))
>>>>> acpi_table_parse(ACPI_SIG_BGRT, acpi_parse_bgrt);
>>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> It's been a while, and the status of arm hardware may have changed. IIRC the
>>>> choice to force enable this is that most arm hardware is headless and this
>>>> was a _required_ option for booting.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure if that's still the case as it's been a long time.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone from the ARM community provide an approval here?
>>>
>>> I don't have a strong opinion either way, but adding the Arm ACPI folks
>>> in case they care.
>>>
>>> Having said that, if the only rationale for this patch is consistency
>>> with other architectures, then I think I'd lean towards leaving the
>>> behaviour as-is so we don't give users a nasty surprise on their next
>>> kernel upgrade.
>>>
>>
>> +1, I am concerned about breaking existing behaviour on the platforms
>> in the wild. Also many platforms running ACPI would have already used
>> console cmdline parameter if SPCR is not their choice for the console.
>> So I don't see the need to align with other arch default behaviour here,
>> we can revisit if someone shouts with a real reason as why cmdline option
>> is not viable.
>
> For varying privacy and security reasons, sometimes we would like to
> completely silence the serial console output, and only enable it through
> cmdline when needed.
>
FWIW, I understand that concern but the feedback you're receiving is
that there are many existing systems that depend on this behavior.
Breaking users for your concerns is not a good idea.
Perhaps a solution is to add yet-another-config-option, or add a kernel
parameter to disable the SPCR console on ARM?
Something like "acpi=nospcr"?
P.
> On ARM, it is difficult because SPCR is enabled by default.
>
> Thanks for your patience,
> Liu Wei
>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Sudeep
>
>
>
>
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Liu Wei <liuwei09@cestc.cn>
To: prarit@redhat.com, Liu Wei <liuwei09@cestc.cn>,
sudeep.holla@arm.com, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: catalin.marinas@arm.com, guohanjun@huawei.com,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lpieralisi@kernel.org,
rafael@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ACPI: Do not enable ACPI SPCR console by default on arm64
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:37:50 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4aff3fb4-cf1b-4c09-918a-3c4252a34bd6@redhat.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20240621043750.Ye7FN-uIzztofO-vM9AfRd_SzwMemGA5t9Xn6qZPDk4@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240618164024.tehpbscax47jkluj@bogus>
From: Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>
> On 6/18/24 23:43, Liu Wei wrote:
> > From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 04:29:24PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> >>> On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 09:06:17AM -0400, Prarit Bhargava wrote:
> >>>> On 5/29/24 21:53, Liu Wei wrote:
> >>>>> Consistency with x86 and loongarch, don't enable ACPI SPCR console
> >>>>> by default on arm64
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Liu Wei <liuwei09@cestc.cn>
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>> arch/arm64/kernel/acpi.c | 3 ++-
> >>>>> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/kernel/acpi.c b/arch/arm64/kernel/acpi.c
> >>>>> index dba8fcec7f33..1deda3e5a0d2 100644
> >>>>> --- a/arch/arm64/kernel/acpi.c
> >>>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/kernel/acpi.c
> >>>>> @@ -227,7 +227,8 @@ void __init acpi_boot_table_init(void)
> >>>>> if (earlycon_acpi_spcr_enable)
> >>>>> early_init_dt_scan_chosen_stdout();
> >>>>> } else {
> >>>>> - acpi_parse_spcr(earlycon_acpi_spcr_enable, true);
> >>>>> + /* Do not enable ACPI SPCR console by default */
> >>>>> + acpi_parse_spcr(earlycon_acpi_spcr_enable, false);
> >>>>> if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ACPI_BGRT))
> >>>>> acpi_table_parse(ACPI_SIG_BGRT, acpi_parse_bgrt);
> >>>>> }
> >>>>
> >>>> It's been a while, and the status of arm hardware may have changed. IIRC the
> >>>> choice to force enable this is that most arm hardware is headless and this
> >>>> was a _required_ option for booting.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not sure if that's still the case as it's been a long time.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can anyone from the ARM community provide an approval here?
> >>>
> >>> I don't have a strong opinion either way, but adding the Arm ACPI folks
> >>> in case they care.
> >>>
> >>> Having said that, if the only rationale for this patch is consistency
> >>> with other architectures, then I think I'd lean towards leaving the
> >>> behaviour as-is so we don't give users a nasty surprise on their next
> >>> kernel upgrade.
> >>>
> >>
> >> +1, I am concerned about breaking existing behaviour on the platforms
> >> in the wild. Also many platforms running ACPI would have already used
> >> console cmdline parameter if SPCR is not their choice for the console.
> >> So I don't see the need to align with other arch default behaviour here,
> >> we can revisit if someone shouts with a real reason as why cmdline option
> >> is not viable.
> >
> > For varying privacy and security reasons, sometimes we would like to
> > completely silence the serial console output, and only enable it through
> > cmdline when needed.
> >
>
> FWIW, I understand that concern but the feedback you're receiving is
> that there are many existing systems that depend on this behavior.
> Breaking users for your concerns is not a good idea.
>
> Perhaps a solution is to add yet-another-config-option, or add a kernel
> parameter to disable the SPCR console on ARM?
>
> Something like "acpi=nospcr"?
Thank you for your suggestion, I will send the new version later.
Best wishes,
Liu wei
>
> P.
>
> > On ARM, it is difficult because SPCR is enabled by default.
> >
> > Thanks for your patience,
> > Liu Wei
> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >> Sudeep
> >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-20 12:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-30 1:53 [PATCH] ACPI: Do not enable ACPI SPCR console by default on arm64 Liu Wei
2024-05-30 13:06 ` Prarit Bhargava
2024-06-18 15:29 ` Will Deacon
2024-06-18 16:40 ` Sudeep Holla
2024-06-19 3:43 ` Liu Wei
2024-06-20 12:04 ` Prarit Bhargava [this message]
2024-06-21 4:37 ` Liu Wei
2024-05-31 1:52 ` Liu Wei
2024-06-21 4:47 ` [PATCH v2] ACPI: Add config to disable " Liu Wei
2024-06-21 11:26 ` Prarit Bhargava
2024-06-21 16:39 ` Liu Wei
2024-06-22 9:35 ` [PATCH V3] ACPI: Add acpi=nospcr to disable ACPI SPCR as default console " Liu Wei
2024-06-22 17:05 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-06-24 5:04 ` Liu Wei
2024-06-24 14:42 ` Will Deacon
2024-06-24 15:10 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-06-25 2:48 ` Liu Wei
2024-06-25 3:05 ` [PATCH v4] ACPI: Add acpi=nospcr to disable ACPI SPCR as default console on ARM64 Liu Wei
2024-06-25 12:58 ` Prarit Bhargava
2024-06-26 3:07 ` Liu Wei
2024-06-26 7:54 ` Hanjun Guo
2024-07-04 16:22 ` Catalin Marinas
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