* [BUG] 3ce1217d6cd5 ima patch causes s390 to crash on boot
@ 2013-11-22 11:48 Heiko Carstens
2013-11-22 13:28 ` Roberto Sassu
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Heiko Carstens @ 2013-11-22 11:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Roberto Sassu, Mimi Zohar; +Cc: Martin Schwidefsky, linux-kernel
Hi Roberto,
your patch 3ce1217d6cd5 "ima: define template fields library and new helpers"
causes s390 to crash on boot:
IMA: No TPM chip found, activating TPM-bypass!
Unable to handle kernel pointer dereference at virtual kernel address 0000000000842000
Oops: 0004 [#1] SMP
Modules linked in:
CPU: 3 PID: 1 Comm: swapper/0 Not tainted 3.12.0-rc2-00098-g3ce1217d6cd5 #17
task: 000000003ffa0000 ti: 000000003ff84000 task.ti: 000000003ff84000
Krnl PSW : 0704e00180000000 000000000044bf88 (strsep+0x7c/0xa0)
R:0 T:1 IO:1 EX:1 Key:0 M:1 W:0 P:0 AS:3 CC:2 PM:0 EA:3
Krnl GPRS: 000000000000007c 000000000000007c 000000003ff87d90 0000000000821fd8
0000000000000000 000000000000007c 0000000000aa37e0 0000000000aa9008
0000000000000051 0000000000a114d8 0000000100000002 0000000000842bde
0000000000842bdf 00000000006f97f0 000000000040062c 000000003ff87cf0
Krnl Code: 000000000044bf7c: a7f4000a brc 15,44bf90
000000000044bf80: b90200cc ltgr %r12,%r12
#000000000044bf84: a7840006 brc 8,44bf90
>000000000044bf88: 9200c000 mvi 0(%r12),0
000000000044bf8c: 41c0c001 la %r12,1(%r12)
000000000044bf90: e3c020000024 stg %r12,0(%r2)
000000000044bf96: b904002b lgr %r2,%r11
000000000044bf9a: ebbcf0700004 lmg %r11,%r12,112(%r15)
Call Trace:
([<00000000004005fe>] ima_init_template+0xa2/0x1bc)
[<0000000000a7c896>] ima_init+0x7a/0xa8
[<0000000000a7c938>] init_ima+0x24/0x40
[<00000000001000e8>] do_one_initcall+0x68/0x128
[<0000000000a4eb56>] kernel_init_freeable+0x20a/0x2b4
[<00000000006a1ff4>] kernel_init+0x30/0x178
[<00000000006b69fe>] kernel_thread_starter+0x6/0xc
[<00000000006b69f8>] kernel_thread_starter+0x0/0xc
Last Breaking-Event-Address:
[<000000000044bf42>] strsep+0x36/0xa0
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* Re: [BUG] 3ce1217d6cd5 ima patch causes s390 to crash on boot
2013-11-22 11:48 [BUG] 3ce1217d6cd5 ima patch causes s390 to crash on boot Heiko Carstens
@ 2013-11-22 13:28 ` Roberto Sassu
2013-11-22 14:13 ` Heiko Carstens
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Roberto Sassu @ 2013-11-22 13:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Heiko Carstens, Mimi Zohar; +Cc: Martin Schwidefsky, linux-kernel
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On 11/22/2013 12:48 PM, Heiko Carstens wrote:
> Hi Roberto,
>
> your patch 3ce1217d6cd5 "ima: define template fields library and new helpers"
> causes s390 to crash on boot:
>
Hi Heiko
thanks for the information. I think this issue is related to the error
detected by the kbuild test robot. Please, try to apply the attached
patch to see if it solves the problem.
Thanks
Roberto
> IMA: No TPM chip found, activating TPM-bypass!
> Unable to handle kernel pointer dereference at virtual kernel address 0000000000842000
> Oops: 0004 [#1] SMP
> Modules linked in:
> CPU: 3 PID: 1 Comm: swapper/0 Not tainted 3.12.0-rc2-00098-g3ce1217d6cd5 #17
> task: 000000003ffa0000 ti: 000000003ff84000 task.ti: 000000003ff84000
> Krnl PSW : 0704e00180000000 000000000044bf88 (strsep+0x7c/0xa0)
> R:0 T:1 IO:1 EX:1 Key:0 M:1 W:0 P:0 AS:3 CC:2 PM:0 EA:3
> Krnl GPRS: 000000000000007c 000000000000007c 000000003ff87d90 0000000000821fd8
> 0000000000000000 000000000000007c 0000000000aa37e0 0000000000aa9008
> 0000000000000051 0000000000a114d8 0000000100000002 0000000000842bde
> 0000000000842bdf 00000000006f97f0 000000000040062c 000000003ff87cf0
> Krnl Code: 000000000044bf7c: a7f4000a brc 15,44bf90
> 000000000044bf80: b90200cc ltgr %r12,%r12
> #000000000044bf84: a7840006 brc 8,44bf90
> >000000000044bf88: 9200c000 mvi 0(%r12),0
> 000000000044bf8c: 41c0c001 la %r12,1(%r12)
> 000000000044bf90: e3c020000024 stg %r12,0(%r2)
> 000000000044bf96: b904002b lgr %r2,%r11
> 000000000044bf9a: ebbcf0700004 lmg %r11,%r12,112(%r15)
> Call Trace:
> ([<00000000004005fe>] ima_init_template+0xa2/0x1bc)
> [<0000000000a7c896>] ima_init+0x7a/0xa8
> [<0000000000a7c938>] init_ima+0x24/0x40
> [<00000000001000e8>] do_one_initcall+0x68/0x128
> [<0000000000a4eb56>] kernel_init_freeable+0x20a/0x2b4
> [<00000000006a1ff4>] kernel_init+0x30/0x178
> [<00000000006b69fe>] kernel_thread_starter+0x6/0xc
> [<00000000006b69f8>] kernel_thread_starter+0x0/0xc
> Last Breaking-Event-Address:
> [<000000000044bf42>] strsep+0x36/0xa0
>
[-- Attachment #2: noderef-ima_template.patch --]
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From: Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Subject: [PATCH] ima: fix coccinelle warnings
TO: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
CC: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@polito.it>
CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c:62:41-47: ERROR: application of sizeof to pointer
sizeof when applied to a pointer typed expression gives the size of
the pointer
Generated by: coccinelle/misc/noderef.cocci
CC: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@polito.it>
CC: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Signed-off-by: Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
---
cocci-output-13142-271b5e-ima_template.c | 2 +-
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
--- a/security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c
+++ b/security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c
@@ -59,7 +59,7 @@ static int template_desc_init_fields(cha
if (template_num_fields > IMA_TEMPLATE_NUM_FIELDS_MAX)
return -EINVAL;
- *fields = kzalloc(template_num_fields * sizeof(*fields), GFP_KERNEL);
+ *fields = kzalloc(template_num_fields * sizeof(**fields), GFP_KERNEL);
if (*fields == NULL) {
result = -ENOMEM;
goto out;
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* Re: [BUG] 3ce1217d6cd5 ima patch causes s390 to crash on boot
2013-11-22 13:28 ` Roberto Sassu
@ 2013-11-22 14:13 ` Heiko Carstens
2013-11-22 16:23 ` Roberto Sassu
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Heiko Carstens @ 2013-11-22 14:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Roberto Sassu; +Cc: Mimi Zohar, Martin Schwidefsky, linux-kernel
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 02:28:33PM +0100, Roberto Sassu wrote:
> On 11/22/2013 12:48 PM, Heiko Carstens wrote:
> >Hi Roberto,
> >
> >your patch 3ce1217d6cd5 "ima: define template fields library and new helpers"
> >causes s390 to crash on boot:
> >
>
> Hi Heiko
>
> thanks for the information. I think this issue is related to the error
> detected by the kbuild test robot. Please, try to apply the attached
> patch to see if it solves the problem.
No, the patch doesn't fix the problem.
> From: Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
> Subject: [PATCH] ima: fix coccinelle warnings
> TO: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> CC: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@polito.it>
> CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
>
> security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c:62:41-47: ERROR: application of sizeof to pointer
>
> sizeof when applied to a pointer typed expression gives the size of
> the pointer
>
> Generated by: coccinelle/misc/noderef.cocci
>
> CC: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@polito.it>
> CC: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> Signed-off-by: Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
> ---
>
> cocci-output-13142-271b5e-ima_template.c | 2 +-
> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> --- a/security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c
> +++ b/security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c
> @@ -59,7 +59,7 @@ static int template_desc_init_fields(cha
> if (template_num_fields > IMA_TEMPLATE_NUM_FIELDS_MAX)
> return -EINVAL;
>
> - *fields = kzalloc(template_num_fields * sizeof(*fields), GFP_KERNEL);
> + *fields = kzalloc(template_num_fields * sizeof(**fields), GFP_KERNEL);
> if (*fields == NULL) {
> result = -ENOMEM;
> goto out;
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* Re: [BUG] 3ce1217d6cd5 ima patch causes s390 to crash on boot
2013-11-22 14:13 ` Heiko Carstens
@ 2013-11-22 16:23 ` Roberto Sassu
2013-11-22 16:35 ` Heiko Carstens
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Roberto Sassu @ 2013-11-22 16:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Heiko Carstens; +Cc: Mimi Zohar, Martin Schwidefsky, linux-kernel
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On 11/22/2013 03:13 PM, Heiko Carstens wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 02:28:33PM +0100, Roberto Sassu wrote:
>> On 11/22/2013 12:48 PM, Heiko Carstens wrote:
>>> Hi Roberto,
>>>
>>> your patch 3ce1217d6cd5 "ima: define template fields library and new helpers"
>>> causes s390 to crash on boot:
>>>
>>
>> Hi Heiko
>>
>> thanks for the information. I think this issue is related to the error
>> detected by the kbuild test robot. Please, try to apply the attached
>> patch to see if it solves the problem.
>
> No, the patch doesn't fix the problem.
Ok, sorry for the delay. I was involved in another task.
The previous patch is not correct, as I allocate an
array of pointers, not structures. You can discard it.
Another problem that I found is that strsep()
modifies the source buffer by replacing the separator
character with '\0'. In particular, this function
modifies static data initialized at the beginning
of the ima_template.c file. Maybe, this is causing
the kernel panic. I already sent a patch to fix this
problem (attached to the email) even if it is not
supposed to land on the 3.13 kernel. Let me know
if this fixes the issue. Otherwise, I will check
the code more in depth.
Thanks
Roberto
>
>> From: Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
>> Subject: [PATCH] ima: fix coccinelle warnings
>> TO: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>> CC: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@polito.it>
>> CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
>>
>> security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c:62:41-47: ERROR: application of sizeof to pointer
>>
>> sizeof when applied to a pointer typed expression gives the size of
>> the pointer
>>
>> Generated by: coccinelle/misc/noderef.cocci
>>
>> CC: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@polito.it>
>> CC: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
>> ---
>>
>> cocci-output-13142-271b5e-ima_template.c | 2 +-
>> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> --- a/security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c
>> +++ b/security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c
>> @@ -59,7 +59,7 @@ static int template_desc_init_fields(cha
>> if (template_num_fields > IMA_TEMPLATE_NUM_FIELDS_MAX)
>> return -EINVAL;
>>
>> - *fields = kzalloc(template_num_fields * sizeof(*fields), GFP_KERNEL);
>> + *fields = kzalloc(template_num_fields * sizeof(**fields), GFP_KERNEL);
>> if (*fields == NULL) {
>> result = -ENOMEM;
>> goto out;
>
[-- Attachment #2: 0002-ima-make-a-copy-of-template_fmt-in-template_desc_ini.patch --]
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>From 2d3aa1c0328c44ecc3af7de162791c8cddfb6dfd Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@polito.it>
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 13:51:35 +0100
Subject: [RFC][PATCH 2/4] ima: make a copy of template_fmt in
template_desc_init_fields()
This patch makes a copy of the 'template_fmt' function argument so that
the latter will not be modified by strsep(), which does the splitting by
replacing the given separator with '\0'.
Signed-off-by: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@polito.it>
---
security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c | 9 ++++++++-
1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c b/security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c
index 7bcff5c..bb33576 100644
--- a/security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c
+++ b/security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c
@@ -113,13 +113,19 @@ static int template_desc_init_fields(char *template_fmt,
struct ima_template_field ***fields,
int *num_fields)
{
- char *c, *template_fmt_ptr = template_fmt;
+ char *c, *template_fmt_ptr, *template_fmt_copy = NULL;
int template_num_fields = template_fmt_size(template_fmt);
int i, result = 0;
if (template_num_fields > IMA_TEMPLATE_NUM_FIELDS_MAX)
return -EINVAL;
+ /* copying is needed as strsep() modifies the original buffer */
+ template_fmt_copy = kstrdup(template_fmt, GFP_KERNEL);
+ if (template_fmt_copy == NULL)
+ return -ENOMEM;
+
+ template_fmt_ptr = template_fmt_copy;
*fields = kzalloc(template_num_fields * sizeof(*fields), GFP_KERNEL);
if (*fields == NULL) {
result = -ENOMEM;
@@ -139,6 +145,7 @@ static int template_desc_init_fields(char *template_fmt,
*num_fields = i;
return 0;
out:
+ kfree(template_fmt_copy);
kfree(*fields);
*fields = NULL;
return result;
--
1.8.1.4
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* Re: [BUG] 3ce1217d6cd5 ima patch causes s390 to crash on boot
2013-11-22 16:23 ` Roberto Sassu
@ 2013-11-22 16:35 ` Heiko Carstens
2013-11-22 16:36 ` Roberto Sassu
2013-11-22 16:40 ` Mimi Zohar
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Heiko Carstens @ 2013-11-22 16:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Roberto Sassu; +Cc: Mimi Zohar, Martin Schwidefsky, linux-kernel
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 05:23:49PM +0100, Roberto Sassu wrote:
> Another problem that I found is that strsep()
> modifies the source buffer by replacing the separator
> character with '\0'. In particular, this function
> modifies static data initialized at the beginning
> of the ima_template.c file. Maybe, this is causing
> the kernel panic. I already sent a patch to fix this
> problem (attached to the email) even if it is not
> supposed to land on the 3.13 kernel. Let me know
> if this fixes the issue. Otherwise, I will check
> the code more in depth.
With your patch below applied the kernel boots again.
So it should go into 3.13 (or a different fix).
Thanks!
> From 2d3aa1c0328c44ecc3af7de162791c8cddfb6dfd Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@polito.it>
> Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 13:51:35 +0100
> Subject: [RFC][PATCH 2/4] ima: make a copy of template_fmt in
> template_desc_init_fields()
>
> This patch makes a copy of the 'template_fmt' function argument so that
> the latter will not be modified by strsep(), which does the splitting by
> replacing the given separator with '\0'.
>
> Signed-off-by: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@polito.it>
> ---
> security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c | 9 ++++++++-
> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c b/security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c
> index 7bcff5c..bb33576 100644
> --- a/security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c
> +++ b/security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c
> @@ -113,13 +113,19 @@ static int template_desc_init_fields(char *template_fmt,
> struct ima_template_field ***fields,
> int *num_fields)
> {
> - char *c, *template_fmt_ptr = template_fmt;
> + char *c, *template_fmt_ptr, *template_fmt_copy = NULL;
> int template_num_fields = template_fmt_size(template_fmt);
> int i, result = 0;
>
> if (template_num_fields > IMA_TEMPLATE_NUM_FIELDS_MAX)
> return -EINVAL;
>
> + /* copying is needed as strsep() modifies the original buffer */
> + template_fmt_copy = kstrdup(template_fmt, GFP_KERNEL);
> + if (template_fmt_copy == NULL)
> + return -ENOMEM;
> +
> + template_fmt_ptr = template_fmt_copy;
> *fields = kzalloc(template_num_fields * sizeof(*fields), GFP_KERNEL);
> if (*fields == NULL) {
> result = -ENOMEM;
> @@ -139,6 +145,7 @@ static int template_desc_init_fields(char *template_fmt,
> *num_fields = i;
> return 0;
> out:
> + kfree(template_fmt_copy);
> kfree(*fields);
> *fields = NULL;
> return result;
> --
> 1.8.1.4
>
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* Re: [BUG] 3ce1217d6cd5 ima patch causes s390 to crash on boot
2013-11-22 16:35 ` Heiko Carstens
@ 2013-11-22 16:36 ` Roberto Sassu
2013-11-22 16:40 ` Mimi Zohar
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Roberto Sassu @ 2013-11-22 16:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Heiko Carstens; +Cc: Mimi Zohar, Martin Schwidefsky, linux-kernel
On 11/22/2013 05:35 PM, Heiko Carstens wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 05:23:49PM +0100, Roberto Sassu wrote:
>> Another problem that I found is that strsep()
>> modifies the source buffer by replacing the separator
>> character with '\0'. In particular, this function
>> modifies static data initialized at the beginning
>> of the ima_template.c file. Maybe, this is causing
>> the kernel panic. I already sent a patch to fix this
>> problem (attached to the email) even if it is not
>> supposed to land on the 3.13 kernel. Let me know
>> if this fixes the issue. Otherwise, I will check
>> the code more in depth.
>
> With your patch below applied the kernel boots again.
> So it should go into 3.13 (or a different fix).
>
Ok, good. Yes, we will apply this patch to the 3.13 kernel.
> Thanks!
No problem.
Roberto
>
>> From 2d3aa1c0328c44ecc3af7de162791c8cddfb6dfd Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>> From: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@polito.it>
>> Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 13:51:35 +0100
>> Subject: [RFC][PATCH 2/4] ima: make a copy of template_fmt in
>> template_desc_init_fields()
>>
>> This patch makes a copy of the 'template_fmt' function argument so that
>> the latter will not be modified by strsep(), which does the splitting by
>> replacing the given separator with '\0'.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@polito.it>
>> ---
>> security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c | 9 ++++++++-
>> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c b/security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c
>> index 7bcff5c..bb33576 100644
>> --- a/security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c
>> +++ b/security/integrity/ima/ima_template.c
>> @@ -113,13 +113,19 @@ static int template_desc_init_fields(char *template_fmt,
>> struct ima_template_field ***fields,
>> int *num_fields)
>> {
>> - char *c, *template_fmt_ptr = template_fmt;
>> + char *c, *template_fmt_ptr, *template_fmt_copy = NULL;
>> int template_num_fields = template_fmt_size(template_fmt);
>> int i, result = 0;
>>
>> if (template_num_fields > IMA_TEMPLATE_NUM_FIELDS_MAX)
>> return -EINVAL;
>>
>> + /* copying is needed as strsep() modifies the original buffer */
>> + template_fmt_copy = kstrdup(template_fmt, GFP_KERNEL);
>> + if (template_fmt_copy == NULL)
>> + return -ENOMEM;
>> +
>> + template_fmt_ptr = template_fmt_copy;
>> *fields = kzalloc(template_num_fields * sizeof(*fields), GFP_KERNEL);
>> if (*fields == NULL) {
>> result = -ENOMEM;
>> @@ -139,6 +145,7 @@ static int template_desc_init_fields(char *template_fmt,
>> *num_fields = i;
>> return 0;
>> out:
>> + kfree(template_fmt_copy);
>> kfree(*fields);
>> *fields = NULL;
>> return result;
>> --
>> 1.8.1.4
>>
>
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* Re: [BUG] 3ce1217d6cd5 ima patch causes s390 to crash on boot
2013-11-22 16:35 ` Heiko Carstens
2013-11-22 16:36 ` Roberto Sassu
@ 2013-11-22 16:40 ` Mimi Zohar
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Mimi Zohar @ 2013-11-22 16:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Heiko Carstens; +Cc: Roberto Sassu, Martin Schwidefsky, linux-kernel
On Fri, 2013-11-22 at 17:35 +0100, Heiko Carstens wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 05:23:49PM +0100, Roberto Sassu wrote:
> > Another problem that I found is that strsep()
> > modifies the source buffer by replacing the separator
> > character with '\0'. In particular, this function
> > modifies static data initialized at the beginning
> > of the ima_template.c file. Maybe, this is causing
> > the kernel panic. I already sent a patch to fix this
> > problem (attached to the email) even if it is not
> > supposed to land on the 3.13 kernel. Let me know
> > if this fixes the issue. Otherwise, I will check
> > the code more in depth.
>
> With your patch below applied the kernel boots again.
> So it should go into 3.13 (or a different fix).
>
> Thanks!
Thanks for testing! There are a number of bug fixes for this release in
linux-integrity/ima-fixes-new. Now that the security patches made it
into Linus' tree, I'll send the pull request to James.
thanks,
Mimi
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