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From: "Jin, Yao" <yao.jin@linux.intel.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: acme@kernel.org, jolsa@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	mingo@redhat.com, alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com,
	me@kylehuey.com, Linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	vincent.weaver@maine.edu, will.deacon@arm.com,
	eranian@google.com, namhyung@kernel.org, ak@linux.intel.com,
	kan.liang@intel.com, yao.jin@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] perf/core: Use sysctl to turn on/off dropping leaked kernel samples
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 14:55:32 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52c75f12-1f91-405d-0b05-0aa6a9c09306@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180615113608.6m74sm7gpl5p6oqe@lakrids.cambridge.arm.com>



On 6/15/2018 7:36 PM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 06:03:22PM +0800, Jin Yao wrote:
>> When doing sampling, for example:
>>
>> perf record -e cycles:u ...
>>
>> On workloads that do a lot of kernel entry/exits we see kernel
>> samples, even though :u is specified. This is due to skid existing.
>>
>> This might be a security issue because it can leak kernel addresses even
>> though kernel sampling support is disabled.
>>
>> One patch "perf/core: Drop kernel samples even though :u is specified"
>> was posted in last year but it was reverted because it introduced a
>> regression issue that broke the rr-project, which used sampling
>> events to receive a signal on overflow. These signals were critical
>> to the correct operation of rr.
>>
>> See '6a8a75f32357 ("Revert "perf/core: Drop kernel samples even
>> though :u is specified"")' for detail.
>>
>> Now the idea is to use sysctl to control the dropping of leaked
>> kernel samples.
>>
>> /sys/devices/cpu/perf_allow_sample_leakage:
>>
>> 0 - default, drop the leaked kernel samples.
>> 1 - don't drop the leaked kernel samples.
> 
> Does this need to be conditional at all?
> 
> At least for sampling the GPRs, we could do something like below
> unconditionally, which seems sufficient for my test cases.
> 
> Mark.
> 
> ---->8----
> diff --git a/kernel/events/core.c b/kernel/events/core.c
> index 67612ce359ad..79a21531d57c 100644
> --- a/kernel/events/core.c
> +++ b/kernel/events/core.c
> @@ -6359,6 +6359,24 @@ perf_callchain(struct perf_event *event, struct pt_regs *regs)
>          return callchain ?: &__empty_callchain;
>   }
>   
> +static struct pt_regs *perf_get_sample_regs(struct perf_event *event, struct pt_regs *regs)
> +{
> +       /*
> +        * Due to interrupt latency (AKA "skid"), we may enter the kernel
> +        * before taking an overflow, even if the PMU is only counting user
> +        * events.
> +        *
> +        * If we're not counting kernel events, always use the user regs when
> +        * sampling.
> +        *
> +        * TODO: how does this interact with guest sampling?
> +        */
> +       if (event->attr.exclude_kernel && !user_mode(regs))
> +               return task_pt_regs(current);
> +
> +       return regs;
> +}
> +
>   void perf_prepare_sample(struct perf_event_header *header,
>                           struct perf_sample_data *data,
>                           struct perf_event *event,
> @@ -6366,6 +6384,8 @@ void perf_prepare_sample(struct perf_event_header *header,
>   {
>          u64 sample_type = event->attr.sample_type;
>   
> +       regs = perf_get_sample_regs(event, regs);
> +
>          header->type = PERF_RECORD_SAMPLE;
>          header->size = sizeof(*header) + event->header_size;
>   
> 

Hi Mark,

Thanks for providing the patch. I understand this approach.

In my opinion, the skid window is from counter overflow to interrupt 
delivered. While if the skid window is too *big* (e.g. user -> kernel), 
it should be not very useful. So personally, I'd prefer to drop the samples.

Thanks
Jin Yao


  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-18  6:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-15 10:03 [PATCH v1 0/2] perf: Drop leaked kernel samples Jin Yao
2018-06-15  3:35 ` Kyle Huey
2018-06-15  5:11   ` Jin, Yao
2018-06-15 17:16     ` Kyle Huey
2018-06-15 17:34       ` Robert O'Callahan
2018-06-16  0:50         ` Jin, Yao
2018-06-16  0:56           ` Kyle Huey
2018-06-16  1:18             ` Jin, Yao
2018-06-15  7:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-15  8:01   ` Jin, Yao
2018-06-15  8:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-15  8:24       ` Jin, Yao
2018-06-15 16:54       ` Stephane Eranian
2018-06-15 10:03 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] perf/core: Use sysctl to turn on/off dropping " Jin Yao
2018-06-15  5:59   ` Stephane Eranian
2018-06-15  7:15     ` Jin, Yao
2018-06-19 16:50       ` Stephane Eranian
2018-06-15  6:02   ` Stephane Eranian
2018-06-15  8:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-15 13:31       ` Liang, Kan
2018-06-18 10:41         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-15 11:36   ` Mark Rutland
2018-06-16  1:27     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-18 10:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-18  6:55     ` Jin, Yao [this message]
2018-06-18 10:45       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19  1:39         ` Jin, Yao
2018-06-19  6:01           ` Mark Rutland
2018-06-15 10:03 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] perf Documentation: Introduce the sysctl perf_allow_sample_leakage Jin Yao

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