From: Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
dave.taht@bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] /dev/random: Insufficient of entropy on many architectures
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 21:47:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5400101.STbFFoov5a@tauon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANcMJZAHuXNQ4eUx+qpVnfJTg625HkJU_9pgBP24ykkmBww3yw@mail.gmail.com>
Am Dienstag, 10. September 2013, 12:38:56 schrieb John Stultz:
Hi John,
>On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> /dev/random uses the get_cycles() function to obtain entropy in
>> addition to jiffies and the event value of hardware events.
>>
>> Typically the high-resolution timer of get_cycles delivers the
>> majority of entropy, because the event value is quite deterministic
>> and jiffies are very coarse.
>[snip]
>
>> The following patch uses the clocksource clock for a time value in
>> case get_cycles returns 0. As clocksource may not be available
>> during boot time, a flag is introduced which allows random.c to
>> check the availability of clocksource.
>[snip]
>
>> diff --git a/kernel/time/timekeeping.c b/kernel/time/timekeeping.c
>> index 48b9fff..75b1613 100644
>> --- a/kernel/time/timekeeping.c
>> +++ b/kernel/time/timekeeping.c
>> @@ -35,6 +35,7 @@ static struct timekeeper timekeeper;
>>
>> static DEFINE_RAW_SPINLOCK(timekeeper_lock);
>> static seqcount_t timekeeper_seq;
>> static struct timekeeper shadow_timekeeper;
>>
>> +static bool timekeeper_enabled = 0;
>>
>> /* flag for if timekeeping is suspended */
>> int __read_mostly timekeeping_suspended;
>>
>> @@ -833,8 +834,15 @@ void __init timekeeping_init(void)
>>
>> write_seqcount_end(&timekeeper_seq);
>> raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&timekeeper_lock, flags);
>>
>> + timekeeper_enabled = 1;
>>
>> }
>
>So the end of timekeeping_init() may not be what you want here. This
>only means we've started up the timekeping core with only the default
>clocksource (with only few exceptions, this is almost always jiffies).
>Then as clocksource drivers are initialized, they are registered and
>the timekeeping core will switch over to the best available
>clocksource. Also, to avoid the churn at boot of switching to every
>clocksource registered, we queue them up and wait until fs_init time
>to switch to whatever is the best available then.
>
>So its likely with this patch that the systems all still end up using
>jiffies for their clocksource at least until fs_init time.
Thank you for the explanation. Is there any trigger that is fired at
fs_init time that one can read?
Thanks
>
>thanks
>-john
Ciao
Stephan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-10 19:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-10 11:31 [PATCH] /dev/random: Insufficient of entropy on many architectures Stephan Mueller
2013-09-10 11:46 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-10 15:04 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 16:54 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-10 18:25 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 19:15 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-10 6:50 ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-14 21:13 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 20:48 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-10 21:14 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-11 6:49 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-12 11:59 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-12 12:08 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-12 12:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-12 12:35 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-12 12:47 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-12 12:57 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-12 21:18 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-13 11:33 ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-09-12 14:25 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 19:38 ` John Stultz
2013-09-10 19:44 ` John Stultz
2013-09-10 19:47 ` Stephan Mueller [this message]
2013-09-10 20:35 ` John Stultz
2013-09-10 20:38 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 20:46 ` John Stultz
2013-09-10 21:10 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 22:08 ` John Stultz
2013-09-10 22:33 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-11 0:31 ` John Stultz
2013-09-11 0:50 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-11 1:14 ` John Stultz
2013-09-12 20:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-09-12 21:07 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-12 23:31 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-12 23:35 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-13 0:00 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-16 15:40 ` [PATCH,RFC] random: make fast_mix() honor its name Jörn Engel
2013-09-21 21:25 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-21 21:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-22 3:05 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-22 21:01 ` Jörg-Volker Peetz
2013-09-22 21:27 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-22 20:53 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-22 23:36 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-23 0:16 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-23 2:43 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-23 15:02 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-23 7:39 ` Jörg-Volker Peetz
2013-09-22 20:31 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-22 20:14 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-12 21:31 ` [PATCH] /dev/random: Insufficient of entropy on many architectures Jörn Engel
2013-09-13 5:36 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-13 11:54 ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-09-13 19:29 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-13 15:26 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-13 18:59 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-15 11:12 ` Stephan Mueller
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