From: Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
dave.taht@bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] /dev/random: Insufficient of entropy on many architectures
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:08:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5896310.H6rEVunj63@tauon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdWMiD1kw34CUJ-KCbk4mKggjtMzxVPpkN=ddfaq_vs9sg@mail.gmail.com>
Am Donnerstag, 12. September 2013, 13:59:04 schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven:
Hi Geert,
>On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
wrote:
>> __u64 tmp = random_get_fast_cycles() - random_get_fast_cycles();
>> if(0 == tmp)
>>
>> return fail;
>>
>> return pass;
>
>That will fail if the cycle counter runs at less than say 4 times the
>CPU clock...
Well...
>
>BTW, I prefer a different name than "random_get_fast_cycles()", as it's
>better to have something that returns different and unpredictable
>numbers than an actual monotonic cycle counter.
A monotonic counter is fully ok. Note, for /dev/random, the occurrence
of events delivers entropy. Thus, we have to be able to precisely
measure that occurrence. The timer itself does not need to deliver any
entropy as long as it is fast.
>
>Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
>
> Geert
>
>--
>Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 --
>geert@linux-m68k.org
>
>In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a
>hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or
>something like that. -- Linus Torvalds
Ciao
Stephan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-12 12:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-10 11:31 [PATCH] /dev/random: Insufficient of entropy on many architectures Stephan Mueller
2013-09-10 11:46 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-10 15:04 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 16:54 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-10 18:25 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 19:15 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-10 6:50 ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-14 21:13 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 20:48 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-10 21:14 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-11 6:49 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-12 11:59 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-12 12:08 ` Stephan Mueller [this message]
2013-09-12 12:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-12 12:35 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-12 12:47 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-12 12:57 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-12 21:18 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-13 11:33 ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-09-12 14:25 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 19:38 ` John Stultz
2013-09-10 19:44 ` John Stultz
2013-09-10 19:47 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-10 20:35 ` John Stultz
2013-09-10 20:38 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 20:46 ` John Stultz
2013-09-10 21:10 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 22:08 ` John Stultz
2013-09-10 22:33 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-11 0:31 ` John Stultz
2013-09-11 0:50 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-11 1:14 ` John Stultz
2013-09-12 20:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-09-12 21:07 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-12 23:31 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-12 23:35 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-13 0:00 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-16 15:40 ` [PATCH,RFC] random: make fast_mix() honor its name Jörn Engel
2013-09-21 21:25 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-21 21:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-22 3:05 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-22 21:01 ` Jörg-Volker Peetz
2013-09-22 21:27 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-22 20:53 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-22 23:36 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-23 0:16 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-23 2:43 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-23 15:02 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-23 7:39 ` Jörg-Volker Peetz
2013-09-22 20:31 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-22 20:14 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-12 21:31 ` [PATCH] /dev/random: Insufficient of entropy on many architectures Jörn Engel
2013-09-13 5:36 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-13 11:54 ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-09-13 19:29 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-13 15:26 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-13 18:59 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-15 11:12 ` Stephan Mueller
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