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From: Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@gmail.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>,
	Oder Chiou <oder_chiou@realtek.com>,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ASoC: rt5682: Add jack kcontrol
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2022 02:16:41 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57747e9a-10e0-e4f6-0644-5225396802f9@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yk8TLUnEHRKstyxq@sirena.org.uk>

On 2022/04/08 1:37, Mark Brown wrote:
> j
> On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 01:11:22AM +0900, Akihiko Odaki wrote:
>> On 2022/04/08 1:00, Mark Brown wrote:
> 
>>> That bit is very common but there's still machine specific aspects - is
>>> the required hardware wired up, if it is wired up how exactly are things
>>> wired (separate microphone jack, headset jack, one of many jacks?).  A
>>> lot of the machine driver part of things is about labeling things so
>>> that it can be displayed in a way that's easy to connect to the physical
>>> system.  Generally the machine driver would define a jack and then
>>> connect the CODEC to it.
> 
>> Whether the required hardware wired is told from the user of the codec via
>> jack's type specified with snd_soc_card_jack_new(). The other details live
>> in the codec.
> 
> So I'm confused about what problem this patch is intended to fix.  It
> really sounds like there's some issue with the driver not using standard
> interfaces that you're trying to work around but the changelog is not at
> all clear.  The "doesn't use DAPM" bit is a bit of a warning sign, it
> sounds like the audio signals to and from the CODEC aren't being
> connected to the jack properly.
> 
> Look at how other devices with jack detection hardware handle this and
> follow a similar pattern.

The situation actually seems quite a mess. You can find many drivers not 
using DAPM pins by searching for snd_soc_card_jack_new() calls with 
num_pins argument is 0. ams-delta-audio is exceptional as it adds DAPM 
pins later with snd_soc_jack_add_pins().

They do not have kcontrols for the jacks. The only exception is 
skl_hda_dsp_generic which calls snd_jack_add_new_kctl() as my patch 
does. Looking at other devices is probably not helpful to find an 
alternative in this case.

Regards,
Akihiko Odaki

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-07 17:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-07 14:13 [PATCH] ASoC: rt5682: Add jack kcontrol Akihiko Odaki
2022-04-07 15:09 ` Mark Brown
2022-04-07 15:46   ` Akihiko Odaki
2022-04-07 16:00     ` Mark Brown
2022-04-07 16:11       ` Akihiko Odaki
2022-04-07 16:37         ` Mark Brown
2022-04-07 17:16           ` Akihiko Odaki [this message]
2022-04-07 17:27             ` Mark Brown

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