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From: guzebing <guzebing1612@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: kbusch@kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk, sagi@grimberg.me,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Guzebing <guzebing@bytedance.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nvme: make firmware activation poll interval configurable
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2026 17:06:11 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7ae65361-f601-4fd9-8eac-5dfb9f6bb7ea@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260709064233.GA18381@lst.de>



On 7/9/26 2:42 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2026 at 09:06:10AM +0800, guzebing wrote:
>> From: Guzebing <guzebing@bytedance.com>
>>
>> nvme_fw_act_work() polls the controller processing-paused status every
>> 100 ms while firmware activation is pending. Some devices can complete
>> online activation in only a few hundred milliseconds, so the fixed
>> interval can add noticeable latency before the driver observes
>> completion.
>>
>> Add an nvme_core.fw_act_poll_interval_ms module parameter to make the
>> poll interval tunable. Keep the default at 100 ms to preserve existing
>> behavior, and accept values from 10 ms to 100 ms so systems that need
>> faster completion detection can opt in to a shorter interval.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Guzebing <guzebing@bytedance.com>
>> ---
>> We recently observed this issue while performing online firmware
>> updates for Gen5 NVMe SSDs in a production environment.
>>
>> During firmware activation, the kernel quiesces I/O. Detecting the end
>> of firmware activation earlier lets the driver unquiesce I/O earlier,
>> which is important for the long-tail I/O latency of production
>> workloads.
> 
> What value does this device report in the Maximum Time for Firmware
> Activation (MTFA) field?  It might make sense to scale the polling
> time as a fraction of that instead of requiring a manual override.
> 

The Samsung PM9D3a Gen5 SSD reports MTFA = 10, i.e. 1000 ms.

I also checked another device, an Intel/Solidigm P5520 Gen4 drive.  It
reports MTFA = 100, i.e. 10000 ms, while the observed online activation
time is about 800 ms.

I agree that deriving the polling interval from MTFA would be better
than adding a module parameter.  Given that MTFA is a conservative upper
bound rather than a good estimate of the common activation time, would
using a small fraction of it, for example MTFA / 100 clamped to 10..100
ms, be a reasonable policy for v2?

That would give 10 ms for the PM9D3a device above, while keeping the
current 100 ms interval for the P5520 case and for large-MTFA devices.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-09  9:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-27  1:06 [PATCH] nvme: make firmware activation poll interval configurable guzebing
2026-07-06  6:33 ` guzebing
2026-07-09  6:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-09  9:06   ` guzebing [this message]
2026-07-09 15:07     ` Keith Busch
2026-07-10  9:20       ` guzebing

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