From: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
Aboorva Devarajan <aboorvad@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
Artem Bityutskiy <artem.bityutskiy@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/4] cpuidle: teo: Add polling flag check to early return path
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 13:16:49 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <842b1500-9f4f-47e5-9777-ee89351f956e@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <13679187.uLZWGnKmhe@rjwysocki.net>
On 1/10/25 12:53, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
>
> After commit 6da8f9ba5a87 ("cpuidle: teo: Skip tick_nohz_get_sleep_length()
> call in some cases") the teo governor behaves a bit differently on
> systems where idle state 0 is a "polling" state (that is, it is not
> really an idle state, but a loop continuously executed by the CPU).
> Namely, on such systems it skips the tick_nohz_get_sleep_length() call
> if the target residency of the current candidate idle state is small
> enough.
>
> However, if state 0 itself was to be returned, it would be returned
> right away without calling tick_nohz_get_sleep_length() even on systems
> where it was not a "polling" state until commit 4b20b07ce72f ("cpuidle:
> teo: Don't count non-existent intercepts") that attempted to fix this
> problem.
>
> Unfortunately, commit 4b20b07ce72f has made the governor always call
> tick_nohz_get_sleep_length() when about to return state 0 early, even
> if that state is a "polling" one, which is inconsistent and defeats
> the purpose of commit 6da8f9ba5a87 in that case.
>
> Address this by adding a CPUIDLE_FLAG_POLLING check to the path where
> state 0 is returned early to prevent tick_nohz_get_sleep_length() from
> being called if it is a "polling" state.
>
> Fixes: 4b20b07ce72f ("cpuidle: teo: Don't count non-existent intercepts")
> Signed-off-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
> ---
> drivers/cpuidle/governors/teo.c | 3 ++-
> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> --- a/drivers/cpuidle/governors/teo.c
> +++ b/drivers/cpuidle/governors/teo.c
> @@ -422,7 +422,8 @@
> first_suitable_idx = i;
> }
> }
> - if (!idx && prev_intercept_idx) {
> + if (!idx && prev_intercept_idx &&
> + !(drv->states[0].flags & CPUIDLE_FLAG_POLLING)) {
> /*
> * We have to query the sleep length here otherwise we don't
> * know after wakeup if our guess was correct.
>
>
>
But then you do run into the issue of intercepts not being detected if
state0 is the right choice, don't you?
This would then enable intercept-detection only for <50% of the time,
another option is to not allow intercepts selecting a polling state, but
there were recent complaints about this exact behavior from Aboorva (+TO).
They don't have a low-latency non-polling state.
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240809073120.250974-1-aboorvad@linux.ibm.com/
Regards,
Christian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-10 13:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-10 12:51 [PATCH v1 0/4] cpuidle: teo: Fix and cleanups Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-01-10 12:53 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] cpuidle: teo: Add polling flag check to early return path Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-01-10 13:16 ` Christian Loehle [this message]
2025-01-10 13:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-01-10 14:52 ` Christian Loehle
2025-01-10 15:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-01-10 17:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-01-23 16:54 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2025-01-23 18:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-01-10 12:54 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] cpuidle: teo: Rearrange idle state lookup code Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-01-10 12:55 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] cpuidle: teo: Reorder candidate state index checks Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-01-10 12:56 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] cpuidle: teo: Combine candidate state index checks against 0 Rafael J. Wysocki
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