From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Prakash Sangappa <prakash.sangappa@oracle.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"rostedt@goodmis.org" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com" <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
"bigeasy@linutronix.de" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
"kprateek.nayak@amd.com" <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
"vineethr@linux.ibm.com" <vineethr@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V6 1/7] Sched: Scheduler time slice extension
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2025 10:32:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87plehwu6z.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E5C37D1C-F220-454B-B152-4E30C2D7827C@oracle.com>
On Thu, Jul 03 2025 at 05:38, Prakash Sangappa wrote:
>> On Jul 1, 2025, at 5:36 AM, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>>
>> Also if we go there and allow non-RT tasks to delay scheduling, then we
>> need a control mechanism to enable/disable this mechanism on a per task
>> or process basis. That way a RT system designer can prevent random
>> user space tasks, which think they are the most important piece, from
>> interfering with truly relevant RT tasks w/o going to chase down source
>> code and hack it into submission.
>
> Could the per task control mechanism be thru /proc?
Is that a serious question?
> Wonder how easy it will be to administer such control.
Obviously it's horrible.
That's what prctl() is for. Plus a proper inheritance mechanism on
fork/exec along with a system wide default which can be controlled via
the kernel command line.
> Alternatively, can we have a config option to apply to LAZY only?
> This will not provide the finer control as you suggested.
A config option is not solving anything; it's just a lazy hack to avoid
the hard work of a proper and future proof ABI design.
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-03 8:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-01 0:37 [PATCH V6 0/7] Scheduler time slice extension Prakash Sangappa
2025-07-01 0:37 ` [PATCH V6 1/7] Sched: " Prakash Sangappa
2025-07-01 8:42 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-07-01 10:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-01 11:28 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-07-01 11:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-01 12:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-07-01 14:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-03 5:38 ` Prakash Sangappa
2025-07-03 8:32 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2025-07-01 18:40 ` Prakash Sangappa
2025-07-01 0:37 ` [PATCH V6 2/7] Sched: Indicate if thread got rescheduled Prakash Sangappa
2025-07-01 0:37 ` [PATCH V6 3/7] Sched: Tunable to specify duration of time slice extension Prakash Sangappa
2025-07-01 3:59 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-07-01 0:37 ` [PATCH V6 4/7] Sched: Add scheduler stat for cpu " Prakash Sangappa
2025-07-01 0:37 ` [PATCH V6 5/7] Sched: Add tracepoint for sched " Prakash Sangappa
2025-07-01 0:37 ` [PATCH V6 6/7] Add API to query supported rseq cs flags Prakash Sangappa
2025-07-01 0:37 ` [PATCH V6 7/7] Introduce a config option for scheduler time slice extension feature Prakash Sangappa
2025-07-01 3:12 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-07-01 17:47 ` Prakash Sangappa
2025-07-01 8:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-07-01 19:04 ` Prakash Sangappa
2025-07-01 4:30 ` [PATCH V6 0/7] Scheduler time slice extension K Prateek Nayak
2025-07-01 19:04 ` Prakash Sangappa
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